BOWERS RACING ENGINES
#61
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 21
It never stops amazing me how people can be so stupid. Yes he can and does build a great engine. Mine is great. He is a theif. He alsways has excuses, he will never deliver on time, he never returns or answers calls. He stole $2700- of my money and there are a number of people listed in these 5 pages who will tell you the same. The fraud police in CO will tell you the same, the Better business bureau will tell you the same, his suppliers who are getting bounced checks. I guess the world would just not operate if we didn't have monkeys who listen to the warnings provided to them. If you use him then I really hope you get ripped of as if you don't take our warnings then you deserve it.
To the guy who has made a post and lives in CO, mate I will pay you half of what ever you can get back of the money he owes me. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx. email me on [email protected] and leave your number I would love to talk to you and tell you my storey.
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Please no threats are to be posted,Thanks Tom
To the guy who has made a post and lives in CO, mate I will pay you half of what ever you can get back of the money he owes me. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx. email me on [email protected] and leave your number I would love to talk to you and tell you my storey.
*EDIT*
Please no threats are to be posted,Thanks Tom
#62
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 272
HAD BRET BOWERS BUILD ME AN ENGINE AND I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH IT I HAVE RAN IT FOR 2 YEARS NOW AND IT STILL RUNS MID 11:00 I HAVE TAKEN IT BACK AND HAD IT CHECKED IT OUT AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT
Just because a motor runs for 2 years and holds together, doesnt mean it is running up to the potential of its parts.
It is easy to loose 2 or 3 tenths in a poor valve job alone, and not even realize it until someone does the valve job correct...
It is not rocket science to bolt parts together and have the motor run and stay together.... the magic comes from the hands and knowledge of the machinist/engine builder... not from fancy shop signage or fancy expensive equipment...
These kinds of engine shops/ builders are everywere.... bottom feeders all of them, just looking to prey on some poor soul with little knowledge and is looking for a deal.... they will give you a deal alright :shock:
#63
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER DELT WITH BRET (CANADA) HE HAS STOOD BEHIND HIS WORK AND NEVER RIPED ME OFF. LIKE YOU ARE TELLING EVERYONE THAT HE DOES THAT. YES HE IS ALITTLE SLOW BUT HE DOES GET THE JOB DONE.
#64
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 21
CHEVYNOVA1964 thats great that he has never done it to you. He has in the pasty had a great reputation that is why many people have maqde the decision to use him. I am in Australia and made my decision on that fact that as at the middle of last year there were no complains logged anywhere, he had competed and done well in several JEGS competitions and that I saw he sponcered racing and there were no registered complaints with the Colorado business bureau. But something happened. The issue is for those who have been stolen from since ( and there are a large number of us now ) we can not nelieve a word he says. I believe that he had a hard time after having to put his father in to a home, but after the 800 other excuses I have heard since, the none answering of phones, return calls or emails and then receiving my shipment sort $2700- worth of items that were to be included, fact is your opionion is now outdated and worthless!!
#65
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 15
well i actually got on line to try and find a home number for bowers race engines.... as he has my motor, almost 10,000 of my money and wont answer any of my calls... and guess what pops up when you google his name? this forum. everything you guys are saying sounds so painfully familar. bret says ohh just send me money when you get it and ill hold it for you untill you have payed me. well guess what i sent him the last bit i owed in january. i live in maine so its not like i can just run out and check on what is taking so long. so i fly out to colorado in april to check what is going on. Yeah scott your motor is almost done just waiting on some parts, but it will be done in a week. well its mid sept and i still havent even heard from him. if anyone has any ideas please let me know.
brett (if you read this):
this is a really crappy way to introduce a young guy into racing i will say that.
brett (if you read this):
this is a really crappy way to introduce a young guy into racing i will say that.
#68
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 15
guess who answered the phone this morning? ohh yeah scott we were just talking about your motor this morning we are going to get on top of it this coming week. Why dont you call me mid next week and we can set up a time to pick it up.
just got off the phone with tracy as you all know she said ill spend a lot of money with no guarentee of getting anything. but i guess we will see what my call mid week brings
just got off the phone with tracy as you all know she said ill spend a lot of money with no guarentee of getting anything. but i guess we will see what my call mid week brings
#69
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 21
ONE LUXURY THAT YOU HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE ONY A FEW HOURS AWAY. TIME FOR YOU TO MAKE IT GAME ON. THE PROBLEM THATYOU HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE THINKING THAT IF YOU JUST WAIT HE WILL GET YOU YOUR MOTOR JUST AS YOU ORDERED IT 12 MONTHS AGO!!! MAN IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO GO TO HIS SHOP ON A MONDAY MORNING AND DO NOT LEAVE UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR ENGINE OR A STACK OF PARTS THAT YOU THINK YOU COULD SELL FOR THE MONEY YOU HAVE INVESTED ON THIS SITE OR ANOTHER. NO MORE CRAP FROM THIS GUY. NO INTERNET SITE, NO LAND LINE PHONE, IT TELLS YOU HE IS IN HIDING FOR A REASON. TRYING TO LAY LOW FOR AS LONG AS HE CAN AND ALL THIS WASHES OVER AND THEN PEOPLE WILL FORGET. I HOPE HE STRAIGHTENS UP, BUT I WILL NEVER TRUST HIM AGAIN. I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS TRANSACTION AND WHEN I AM IN COLORADO NEXT I WILL BE SURE TO POP IN AND GET MY MONEYS WORTH. YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME. GOOD LUCK AND MAKE SURE YOU KEEP US POSTED ON HOW YOU GO. PLEASE ENSURE YOU CALL DETECTIVE GAZA FROM THE COLORADO FRAUD SQUAD AND SHE WILL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH PRESSURE. THAT IS THE ROAD THE ORGINATOR OF THIS FORUM TOOK AND HE RECIEVED AN INCOMPLETE BUT HIGH VALUE ENGINE. NOT WHAT HE ORDERED BUT AT LEAST SOMETHING
#70
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 15
well today is monday and i thought i would call just to see is he would answer the phone. supriseingly he did!!! and he actually is still promising the same day. still suppose to call wens. to set up the dyno day and pick up. i have to say my hopes are up and i am in this dangerous spot were maybe all his excuses arent bs maybe all of it is true and mayb e he does just take a long time. he even claims he is going to have my spec sheet and all. however iam still talking to the fraud people just in case.
keep you posted
scott
keep you posted
scott


