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11-28-2009, 07:32 PM
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nvmyvettes--go to your original posts and you will find a delete button--just use it and bam--YOUR words are gone on that posts--except the ones that got 'quoted' ---they stay :?
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11-28-2009, 08:08 PM
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The Point
I believe most have missed the point here and this thread has gotten ugly. Every one has a valid point and voiced there opinion. I can personally tell you and most of you will have to agree, that if you do your best to be a straight up no BS person who represents his stuff to the best of his ability and something happens where you feel wronged, it aint about money, it is all about the PRINCIPAL. It is the point of right and wrong and we all have the right to defend ourselves when we feel wronged. And as I have said before, a deal is a deal and your word is your word. Some people need to have a whole lot more character and cash the checks their mouths write.
I also believe as bad as eBay has gotten, there is some value to having a good rating as it shows another part of your business dealings. It certainly does not hurt to consider all possible references
I also believe as bad as eBay has gotten, there is some value to having a good rating as it shows another part of your business dealings. It certainly does not hurt to consider all possible references
11-28-2009, 08:12 PM
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X2!!
11-29-2009, 12:33 AM
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well heres my 2 cents A. both paid 350 makes it wash B.if motor was bad then you saved yourself a whole nother can of worms C. if paint had issues and the paint cant be made you get new paint job which would be a big plus on your side.
11-29-2009, 05:02 AM
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Why are you still in here yacking away if you are through with it? You asked for opinions, you got them. There were really no insults thrown until YOU said to Dennis:
"BTW If all I had to worry about in this world is your opinion,then I aint got JACK S**t to worry about pal."
I agree with Scorp, you didn't get the tbucket you really, really wanted because it must have been a nicer ride than yours.
You stated:
[quote="nvmyvettes"]Here we go with insults again
I dont know who you think your talking to. Im grown.I have five kids. Two in college older than some of you. Three still at home. I do very well for my family. This aint my first rodeo and Im not some dumb ass.[quote="nvmyvettes"]
Do you really think anyone in here gives a crap who they are talking to (you). Are you the big man on campus somewhere? You aren't here! WOW, we are so proud that you have five kids, two in college and do quite well for your family. That is very impressive, stick your head out your front door and look around.......This world is full of men that do the same thing you are bragging about. What the hell does having kids and having some age on you mean? It certainly doesn't mean you can't be a dumb ass, agian, look out your front door. If you think this is our first rodeo, well sir, you are mistaken. You wanted the bucket and it pisses you off you didn't get your way. I agreed with you in most instances until you had to attack folks (Dennis,Lively) in a thread that YOU started.
Now go find the site that doesn't let this kind of stuff happen,(lmao) and don't ask for opinions if you can't take the ones you don't like.
If you are so well to do, suck up the $350 and be glad that is all you are out! I now believe the man was trying to get out of the deal for the specific reason he stated, your car wasn't as nice as you said.
I know the game, one week ago yesterday, I had a trade offer for my '69 Camaro. He offered to send the '66 ChevyII down as an even trade for my '69 (sight unseen). The pictures made it look BEAUTIFUL! Thank God I had the good sense to go look at it first.......I still have my Camaro and some guys rust bucket isn't sitting im my garage (again). Now I know why he wanted to trade without seeing my car first, his is junk............hmmmmm.
Same circumstances,,,,,gotta make a man wonder.
BTW, we really do rodeo....Do you? Or do you just like the phrase?
"BTW If all I had to worry about in this world is your opinion,then I aint got JACK S**t to worry about pal."
I agree with Scorp, you didn't get the tbucket you really, really wanted because it must have been a nicer ride than yours.
You stated:
[quote="nvmyvettes"]Here we go with insults again
I dont know who you think your talking to. Im grown.I have five kids. Two in college older than some of you. Three still at home. I do very well for my family. This aint my first rodeo and Im not some dumb ass.[quote="nvmyvettes"]
Do you really think anyone in here gives a crap who they are talking to (you). Are you the big man on campus somewhere? You aren't here! WOW, we are so proud that you have five kids, two in college and do quite well for your family. That is very impressive, stick your head out your front door and look around.......This world is full of men that do the same thing you are bragging about. What the hell does having kids and having some age on you mean? It certainly doesn't mean you can't be a dumb ass, agian, look out your front door. If you think this is our first rodeo, well sir, you are mistaken. You wanted the bucket and it pisses you off you didn't get your way. I agreed with you in most instances until you had to attack folks (Dennis,Lively) in a thread that YOU started.
Now go find the site that doesn't let this kind of stuff happen,(lmao) and don't ask for opinions if you can't take the ones you don't like.
If you are so well to do, suck up the $350 and be glad that is all you are out! I now believe the man was trying to get out of the deal for the specific reason he stated, your car wasn't as nice as you said.
I know the game, one week ago yesterday, I had a trade offer for my '69 Camaro. He offered to send the '66 ChevyII down as an even trade for my '69 (sight unseen). The pictures made it look BEAUTIFUL! Thank God I had the good sense to go look at it first.......I still have my Camaro and some guys rust bucket isn't sitting im my garage (again). Now I know why he wanted to trade without seeing my car first, his is junk............hmmmmm.
Same circumstances,,,,,gotta make a man wonder.
BTW, we really do rodeo....Do you? Or do you just like the phrase?
11-29-2009, 06:40 AM
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[quote="hollowayshotrods"]Why are you still in here yacking away if you are through with it?
Answer: BECAUSE IM RIGHT!!!! AND I HATE TO BE DEGRADED BY PEOPLE WHO BASE THERE OPINIONS ON SPECULATIONS,NOT PROOF. ITS BETTER TO REMAIN SILENT AND THOUGHT OF AS A FOOL ,THEN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT
(Holloway)You asked for opinions, you got them. There were really no insults thrown until YOU said to Dennis:
"BTW If all I had to worry about in this world is your opinion,then I aint got JACK S**t to worry about pal."
ANSWER: HE INSULTED ME WHEN HE ISOLATED PART OF A SENTENCE THAT I WROTE AND CHANGED THE CONTEXT OF THE STATEMENT.ACUSING ME OF TRYING TO GET OVER.
(Holloway)I agree with Scorp, you didn't get the tbucket you really, really wanted because it must have been a nicer ride than yours.
ANSWER: YOUR ANOTHER ONE THAT JUST DONT GET IT. IF YOU THINK ITS ALLRIGHT TO LIE AND COST PEOPLE THEN I CERTIANLY WOULNT WANT TO BUISNESS WITH YOU. AND ONCE MORE IF THE TBUCKET WAS MY ISSUE,IWOULD JUST GO BUY ONE.
(Holloway)You stated:
[quote="nvmyvettes"]Here we go with insults again
I dont know who you think your talking to. Im grown.I have five kids. Two in college older than some of you. Three still at home. I do very well for my family. This aint my first rodeo and Im not some dumb ass.
Do you really think anyone in here gives a crap who they are talking to (you). Are you the big man on campus somewhere? You aren't here! WOW, we are so proud that you have five kids, two in college and do quite well for your family. That is very impressive, stick your head out your front door and look around.......This world is full of men that do the same thing you are bragging about. What the hell does having kids and having some age on you mean? It certainly doesn't mean you can't be a dumb ass, agian, look out your front door. If you think this is our first rodeo, well sir, you are mistaken.
ANSWER: ITS CALLED CREDITALS.IT MAY NOY MEAN ANYTHING IN YOUR WORLD,BUT IT DOES IN MINE. NO IM NOT A BIG MAN ON CAMPUS. JUST SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN RIGHT AND WRONG WHICH IS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR SOME
(Holloway)You wanted the bucket and it pisses you off you didn't get your way. I agreed with you in most instances until you had to attack folks (Dennis,Lively) in a thread that YOU started.
Now go find the site that doesn't let this kind of stuff happen,(lmao) and don't ask for opinions if you can't take the ones you don't like.
ANSWER: AGAIN IF I WANTED A TBUCKET,I WOULD GO BUY ONE. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE $350 THAT I SPENT BASED ON LIES TOLD BY THE OTHER PARTY. IM SORRY YOU DONT GET IT.
AT LEAST SOME SITES HAVE FEEDBACK SCORES.IMO THATS A HELL OF LOT BETTER THAN WHAT GOES ON HERE SOMETIMES.
OPINIONS BASED ON SPECULATIONS ARE NOT FACTS.THERE SIMPLY GUESSES.IF YOUR GOING TO INSULT SOMEONE BY ACUSEING THEM OF TRYING TO GET OVER, DO IT ON FACTS NOT SPECULATION
(Holloway)If you are so well to do, suck up the $350 and be glad that is all you are out! I now believe the man was trying to get out of the deal for the specific reason he stated, your car wasn't as nice as you said.
ANSWER: AS STATED EARLIER I WILL SUCK IT.THAT DOESNT MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE IT.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT.BUT AGIAN YOUR OPINION IS BASED ON SPECULATION BECAUSE THE OTHER PARTY REFUSES TO COME ON HERE AND EXPLIAN HIS LIES.AND YOU DONT KNOW ME OR MY CAR,SO AGAIN ANOTHER GUESS. NOT FACTS
(Holloway)I know the game, one week ago yesterday, I had a trade offer for my '69 Camaro. He offered to send the '66 ChevyII down as an even trade for my '69 (sight unseen). The pictures made it look BEAUTIFUL! Thank God I had the good sense to go look at it first.......I still have my Camaro and some guys rust bucket isn't sitting im my garage (again). Now I know why he wanted to trade without seeing my car first, his is junk............hmmmmm.
Same circumstances,,,,,gotta make a man wonder.
ANSWER :THIS IS NOT YOUR CAMARO/CHEVY II TRADE. SOME PEOPLE DONT DO BUSINESS THE WAY YOUR CHEVY II GUY DOES.BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOME THAT DO.YOUR CHEVY II GUY AND THE GUY IM DEALING WITH
(Holloway)BTW, we really do rodeo....Do you? Or do you just like the phrase?
ANSWER: NO I DONT RODEO, AND YES I LIKE THE PHRASE. IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR SPECULATIONS/GUESSES WHICH ARE INSULTS THERE ANOTHER SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON
Answer: BECAUSE IM RIGHT!!!! AND I HATE TO BE DEGRADED BY PEOPLE WHO BASE THERE OPINIONS ON SPECULATIONS,NOT PROOF. ITS BETTER TO REMAIN SILENT AND THOUGHT OF AS A FOOL ,THEN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT
(Holloway)You asked for opinions, you got them. There were really no insults thrown until YOU said to Dennis:
"BTW If all I had to worry about in this world is your opinion,then I aint got JACK S**t to worry about pal."
ANSWER: HE INSULTED ME WHEN HE ISOLATED PART OF A SENTENCE THAT I WROTE AND CHANGED THE CONTEXT OF THE STATEMENT.ACUSING ME OF TRYING TO GET OVER.
(Holloway)I agree with Scorp, you didn't get the tbucket you really, really wanted because it must have been a nicer ride than yours.
ANSWER: YOUR ANOTHER ONE THAT JUST DONT GET IT. IF YOU THINK ITS ALLRIGHT TO LIE AND COST PEOPLE THEN I CERTIANLY WOULNT WANT TO BUISNESS WITH YOU. AND ONCE MORE IF THE TBUCKET WAS MY ISSUE,IWOULD JUST GO BUY ONE.
(Holloway)You stated:
[quote="nvmyvettes"]Here we go with insults again
I dont know who you think your talking to. Im grown.I have five kids. Two in college older than some of you. Three still at home. I do very well for my family. This aint my first rodeo and Im not some dumb ass.
Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Do you really think anyone in here gives a crap who they are talking to (you). Are you the big man on campus somewhere? You aren't here! WOW, we are so proud that you have five kids, two in college and do quite well for your family. That is very impressive, stick your head out your front door and look around.......This world is full of men that do the same thing you are bragging about. What the hell does having kids and having some age on you mean? It certainly doesn't mean you can't be a dumb ass, agian, look out your front door. If you think this is our first rodeo, well sir, you are mistaken.
ANSWER: ITS CALLED CREDITALS.IT MAY NOY MEAN ANYTHING IN YOUR WORLD,BUT IT DOES IN MINE. NO IM NOT A BIG MAN ON CAMPUS. JUST SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN RIGHT AND WRONG WHICH IS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR SOME
(Holloway)You wanted the bucket and it pisses you off you didn't get your way. I agreed with you in most instances until you had to attack folks (Dennis,Lively) in a thread that YOU started.
Now go find the site that doesn't let this kind of stuff happen,(lmao) and don't ask for opinions if you can't take the ones you don't like.
ANSWER: AGAIN IF I WANTED A TBUCKET,I WOULD GO BUY ONE. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE $350 THAT I SPENT BASED ON LIES TOLD BY THE OTHER PARTY. IM SORRY YOU DONT GET IT.
AT LEAST SOME SITES HAVE FEEDBACK SCORES.IMO THATS A HELL OF LOT BETTER THAN WHAT GOES ON HERE SOMETIMES.
OPINIONS BASED ON SPECULATIONS ARE NOT FACTS.THERE SIMPLY GUESSES.IF YOUR GOING TO INSULT SOMEONE BY ACUSEING THEM OF TRYING TO GET OVER, DO IT ON FACTS NOT SPECULATION
(Holloway)If you are so well to do, suck up the $350 and be glad that is all you are out! I now believe the man was trying to get out of the deal for the specific reason he stated, your car wasn't as nice as you said.
ANSWER: AS STATED EARLIER I WILL SUCK IT.THAT DOESNT MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE IT.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT.BUT AGIAN YOUR OPINION IS BASED ON SPECULATION BECAUSE THE OTHER PARTY REFUSES TO COME ON HERE AND EXPLIAN HIS LIES.AND YOU DONT KNOW ME OR MY CAR,SO AGAIN ANOTHER GUESS. NOT FACTS
(Holloway)I know the game, one week ago yesterday, I had a trade offer for my '69 Camaro. He offered to send the '66 ChevyII down as an even trade for my '69 (sight unseen). The pictures made it look BEAUTIFUL! Thank God I had the good sense to go look at it first.......I still have my Camaro and some guys rust bucket isn't sitting im my garage (again). Now I know why he wanted to trade without seeing my car first, his is junk............hmmmmm.
Same circumstances,,,,,gotta make a man wonder.
ANSWER :THIS IS NOT YOUR CAMARO/CHEVY II TRADE. SOME PEOPLE DONT DO BUSINESS THE WAY YOUR CHEVY II GUY DOES.BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOME THAT DO.YOUR CHEVY II GUY AND THE GUY IM DEALING WITH
(Holloway)BTW, we really do rodeo....Do you? Or do you just like the phrase?
ANSWER: NO I DONT RODEO, AND YES I LIKE THE PHRASE. IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR SPECULATIONS/GUESSES WHICH ARE INSULTS THERE ANOTHER SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON
11-29-2009, 06:57 AM
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for this thread to make any sence going forward it needs to get back to its original point. this guy did not ask to be screwed out of $350, the other party involved has been invited to share his side of the story & has chose to hide. THAT SAYS A LOT!! as tight as things are now I would be PISSED too.jmo, mike
11-29-2009, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
for this thread to make any sence going forward it needs to get back to its original point. this guy did not ask to be screwed out of $350, the other party involved has been invited to share his side of the story & has chose to hide. THAT SAYS A LOT!! as tight as things are now I would be PISSED too.jmo, mike
Thanks for keeping an open mind.
11-29-2009, 08:33 AM
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?????? IF YOUR CAR HAULER HAD GOTTEN THERE AND SEEN THIS T BUCKET WAS JUNK!!!AND YOU DECUDED YOU DID NOT WANT IT??? WOULD YOU HAVE PAID THE DRIVER FOR HAULING YOUR CAR BOTH WAYS??? JUST A THOUGHT THAT REALLY NEEDS AN ANSWER :?
NOT CHOOSING SIDES OR BEATING ON YOU -JUST TRYING TO GET ANSWERS
I THINK THE T BUCKET MAN GOT COLD FEET AND BACKED OUT BUT THEN I NEVER SEEN EITHER ONE OF YOUR CARS UP CLOSE 8) 8)
BUT IT IS BETTER TO LOSE $350 THEN TO GET A PIECE OF JUNK IN RETURN[????] RIGHT OR WRONG??
HE DID PAY THE SHIPPING BACK--RIGHT--WITHOUT BEING ASKED***
I THINK BOTH CARS LOOK GREAT IN THE PICS BUT UP CLOSE CAN BE ALOT DIFFERENT
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NOT CHOOSING SIDES OR BEATING ON YOU -JUST TRYING TO GET ANSWERS
I THINK THE T BUCKET MAN GOT COLD FEET AND BACKED OUT BUT THEN I NEVER SEEN EITHER ONE OF YOUR CARS UP CLOSE 8) 8)
BUT IT IS BETTER TO LOSE $350 THEN TO GET A PIECE OF JUNK IN RETURN[????] RIGHT OR WRONG??
HE DID PAY THE SHIPPING BACK--RIGHT--WITHOUT BEING ASKED***
I THINK BOTH CARS LOOK GREAT IN THE PICS BUT UP CLOSE CAN BE ALOT DIFFERENT
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11-29-2009, 09:40 AM
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YES I would probably paid twice that to get my car back. Rather than get screwed.
He may have got cold feet,and backed out? But why not just say that? Then go from there instead of making up a story. If the Tbucket was blown up, like John or Johns son originally stated,(Im gonna tell you up front,we found water in the oil yesterday,no use to lie about it.My brother must of took it out and blew it up without dad knowing) then hell yes Im glad I had a driver that ask to inspect it instead of a drop off pick up driver.And yes Im glad I only lost $350 instead of more or even worse ending up with a car with motor problems.
He paid to have the Tbird delivered to him. That was our deal. The driver ask for it when he got there.I paid to have it returned,because of the story about the blown engine.If in fact the engine was blown, and he just found out the day before,again he could have called or emailed me before my car ever left. If it was blown the whole time and he was'nt expecting an inspection before pick up then he was trying to get over.
But if My driver would of called and said John didnt like your car and felt it was missrepresented, then I would have talk to John and ask him how he felt it was missrepresented.If I felt in anyway that I did missrepresent it then I would of paid shipping both ways, no questioned ask.
But I guess we'll never know the answer to this one.He refuses to answer my emails or phone calls.He refuses to get on here and explain.
Like I said Im willing to file this one under doing business on line the way I choose to do it. And like some said, It may seem stupid to do business that way to them. And yes, your asking for trouble by doing it this way.But seriously Ive never had a problem till now. (knock on wood)
I still would love to know the real deal though.
Peace Darrell
He may have got cold feet,and backed out? But why not just say that? Then go from there instead of making up a story. If the Tbucket was blown up, like John or Johns son originally stated,(Im gonna tell you up front,we found water in the oil yesterday,no use to lie about it.My brother must of took it out and blew it up without dad knowing) then hell yes Im glad I had a driver that ask to inspect it instead of a drop off pick up driver.And yes Im glad I only lost $350 instead of more or even worse ending up with a car with motor problems.
He paid to have the Tbird delivered to him. That was our deal. The driver ask for it when he got there.I paid to have it returned,because of the story about the blown engine.If in fact the engine was blown, and he just found out the day before,again he could have called or emailed me before my car ever left. If it was blown the whole time and he was'nt expecting an inspection before pick up then he was trying to get over.
But if My driver would of called and said John didnt like your car and felt it was missrepresented, then I would have talk to John and ask him how he felt it was missrepresented.If I felt in anyway that I did missrepresent it then I would of paid shipping both ways, no questioned ask.
But I guess we'll never know the answer to this one.He refuses to answer my emails or phone calls.He refuses to get on here and explain.
Like I said Im willing to file this one under doing business on line the way I choose to do it. And like some said, It may seem stupid to do business that way to them. And yes, your asking for trouble by doing it this way.But seriously Ive never had a problem till now. (knock on wood)
I still would love to know the real deal though.
Peace Darrell