To rigsby , the boxes were new, when you buy a new TV or electrical device and it comes out of the box it has a distinct smell. Each electronic device is tested before it leaves any factory and QC stickers are appiled. My point was simple, if you buy a ignition system that has a couple of scratches and I mean small scratches that were not visible unless a magnifying glass was being used. No big deal in my book. This dude indicated they were burnt up and in used condition. Its amazing, why not put them on your car and see that there was no concern or reason for sending them back. I even discounted the purchase price to that dude. Some people are hard to please!! I guess most of the people on this site are looking for the give away deals !! Those boxes retail for over 850.00 , what a huge savings. The boxes sold used are still carrying a 600 plus price tag. Employee price on those are 500.00. Everything i sold online was exactly as it was pictured. I even went as far as asking any buyers to ask any questions and request all pictures of items before sending them away, just so the buyers were comfortable with their purchase. If I was a scammer like this dude indicated then i would of run with his cash and been done with it. I handled it as a professional, I asked what his complaints were and indicated that if he was not fully happy I would make the transaction right , that was until he started threatening me. How funny that was!! This dude has no idea anything about me and what kind of huge problem he would have trying to get his way with me. Talk is cheap and he is 1000 miles away and likes running his mouth , Oh well I returned his cash and sold the units to other very happy customers. My point has been made. I dont have time to repond to everyone here and Im not looking for any pen pal's so hopefully this answers everybody's curious questions. This maybe my last time here to try and sell anything, to much B.S.