Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
I feel like I need to put this to rest before it gets started. This "gentleman" who posted this is the same "gentleman" that back in October of 2008 purchased 4 MSD boxes from us and wanted them sent overnight. Now what kind of person would need 4 750.00 MSD boxes shipped overnight? It was an unusual purchase because they are very pricey. Myself and my ex business partner were very suspicious of the transaction and called PayPal to make sure indeed that we would be covered by them if something went wrong (if we got scammed). They insure us that as long as it was sent to an address that they credit card was tied to and that is was signed for, that it would be covered. Sure enough, this "gentleman" tried to dispute his cc with PayPal. Initially, PayPal deducted the money back from our account but after talking to them, they paid us back. In May or June of last year, he tried to do the same thing. He paid PayPal for 4 of the same boxes. We decided not to do the transaction because we again thought it was a scam. We later closed down our eBay store and our PayPal account. PayPal informed me long ago that this "gentleman" again had disputed his cc payment with them. He says that we owe him for these boxes and PayPal will tell you that he initially paid for them, but the money was put back on his card due to the dispute. I told this "gentleman" numorous times that if he would have PayPal and his cc company get me statements or letters or even a phone call proving that this money had not been put back on his cc, that I would definitely make it right. He uses the excuse that he doesn't bank with the same bank anymore and that PayPal isn't willing to help him out with this. I told him even though he doesn't bank with the same bank anymore, that they do keep records and they can get him proof of this transaction. He feels like he doesn't have to show proof and that I guess I should take his word for it. I don't think so. Like I said, have the bank & PayPal get with me or send me the information and I will make it right. My belief is that this "gentleman" is a scammer and has been one and is trying to pull some BS move. If anyone would like to ask me any questions, please feel free to call. Sorry for taking up so much time for this BS. Dwight Workman. 859-647-7223.
Ok...wait a minute here.
Ok he says that in October of 2008 purchased 4 MSD boxes from us and wanted them sent overnight. He admits here that he did indeed get paid for those boxes. He says paypal took the money away but eventually gave it back. OK. DONE DEAL. TFSBC Got his boxes and KSP got their money. DONE
THEN HE SAYS...
In May or June of last year, he tried to do the same thing. He paid PayPal for 4 of the same boxes. We decided not to do the transaction because we again thought it was a scam. We later closed down our eBay store and our PayPal account. PayPal informed me long ago that this "gentleman" again had disputed his cc payment with them. He says that we owe him for these boxes and PayPal will tell you that he initially paid for them, but the money was put back on his card due to the dispute.
What he does not say outright is that he got the money from the boxes,He says TFSBC paid PAYPAL then disputed the charge,and PAYPAL put the money back on his card...WELL if THAT IS THE CASE it should be just as easy for KSP to prove this as it would be for TFSBC to prove it. IF PAYPAL put the money back on his card they had to take the money away from KSP!!! He could show HIS bank statement where the money was removed from his account!! He admits that he closed his paypal account. This is the part that bothers me right here...
HE has said that if TFSBC shows that he was not credited he will make it right....So what, now he expects us to believe that he has $3300 in his bank account that he didn't know was there??? The fact that he says he will pay TFSBC back if he shows proof means that he indeed DID recieve the $3300 from paypal, in which case, He is wrong. Even if PAYPAL gave TFSBC his money back as KSP says...KSP has NO RIGHT to keep the $3300 whether it belong to TFSBC or PAYPAL!!!
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THE $3300 IF YOU DIDN'T SEND THE BOXES.
So NOW YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING TOD74? THIS GUY HAS STOLEN MONEY FROM ME. THATS WHAT THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO. The guy is a liar and a thief. Let me ask you something Tod74....if I purchased items from you and there was trouble with that order where allegedly as this guy said, where I filed a dispute with my Bank....would you sale ANYTHING ELSE TO ME AGAIN? Hell no you wouldnt. But this guy not only sold more items to me, he discussed the purchase and I sent the money. Why did he accept the money? If he refused to do business with me, why wouldnt he immediately refund the money? I called kentucky speed and performance after shipping was slow and he didnt send the parts, I reached Dwight and he said that the boxes would go out in the morning. why not say? hey jacob, we arent doing business with you. i will be refunding you. he said i will ship the items in the morning. no, what he did was deposit the money into his bank acct and stole it. the email from paypal says that they werent able to recover my funds because the seller had already made off with them basically.