OMG--the bank doesn't have the title and never did. They simply held a lein on it prior to wayne picking the car up.I have the title in hand and always did. The only issue was asking the bank to NOT send in the lein release to the state so I had some legal and binding eveidence the car was mine if he didn't pay me the entire $14,500 we agreed on if I didn't buy the other car. The title is in my hands, how do you think I photoed it, think about it. Who said the bank had the title anyway? I have the title and the signed lein release from my bank. I'd man up for $500 to give the guy his title and let this go away. If he can't meet half way to settle it--his loss. It doesn't matter to me either way. I really could care less about the grand now anyway. I've been critisized pretty heavily on here from people who don't know me or the facts. As far as not having time to come on here constantly---I have a life and a job. Some of the guys that live on here should really get one to! There---I agreed to go half way on the deal. I'll take $500 in the rear. Now are you a man wayne?