Hey guys I want to thank spib for the info and i noticed you live in WA. I have been to Cashmere out on 2 and 97 that is some awesome country out there. Hey jbsjunk you just described half the s10's around here there all slammed and with m/t tires. heck iv seen them with roll bars and a dang 4 banger. look mean. myself i have 12 sbc engines but heres the good part I dont have anything to put them in except my c10. lol I guess ill have to convert the lawn mower lol lol later guys