MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

Mike senior is undependable. Will mislead you and promise a trade then the day before and day of the trade he won't even answer his phone. He is very undependable, and a bottom feeder. I am just glad that i didn't do the trip depending on what he said. He should be banned from RJ!

Ok WTF ?......So u call the guy a feww names...now stop and tell us what happened !

'reneggers".... you sound like you want to hang those reneggers & make them pay...

Why don't you explain what the reneggers did... do the reneggers have an ad #???

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

This the same Mike in your prior post? Mike Jenkins from Florence SC? Now its Mike and Mike in Ocala.

Same Mike plus one?

Multiple Mikes in different states?

Or do you just have problems with Mikes in general?

here's the link from your prior post:

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtop...hlight=#109914

And if its the same why are you clogging up forum space with multiple posts when you can piece the whole thing together with one post. Of course you know that from this exchange with Holiday;

I got this from the kid that posted this SECOND thread about the same hoopla. Always a smart ass reply from some jerk off that doesn't understand the forum.

From: reddnova
To: hollowayshotrods
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:10 pm
Subject: thread
I was just seeing if I could bring it current. I want people to know about this scammer.

By the way are you the hall patrol, monitor and why do you ask. My question is what is it to you.
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So what gives Reddnova, and why should anyone want to help you when it looks pretty obvious you are just playing games?

Scorp

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

This is not the same Mike in Florence. He has never come on here to defend himself. He had his wife do it for a short time. I would say he has changed his name on here now.

I just get sick of people setting up trades then the night before the trade they stop communicating, phone calls and emails are not answered etc. All you traders know what I mean. In my case Mike senior set up the trade along with when and where to meet. I am usually open on time and was this time. I have learned to to leave for the trade meeting unless you get a commitement that they will be there.

The thing that pisses me off is Mike requested that I change the car from e-85 back to street gas. I did so in the sweltering heat for a good part of a day just to get it the way he wanted it. Now I will change it back.

I just bothers me when guys like Mike set up the deal then aren't man enough to let you know they have backed out. They just quit answering their phone etc. the night before. meanwhile my car is sitting on the trailer ready to make the 300 plus mile trip to meet Mike and trade it to him just the way he wanted it. Mike wasted way too much of my time. Yes that pisses me off!

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

When explained as above, I have empathy for your situation. I agree- call & give notice of a change or backing out. This is a common complaint seen here; yet it does not make someone a scammer... it does make them a flake though. He wasted a lot of your time... which translates to money as well.

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

Sorry- not buying what you are selling.

Two deals, three mikes and two posts where you are complaining about getting the short end of the deal or not liking how you are treated.

Did you ever think that the problem might be the common denominator-you?

Did you ever wonder if how you are acting with people is causing them to blow off the deal or just decide not to deal with you?

Your posts and complaints suggest a trend. And I can't recall a poster getting on here twice and complaining about bad deals within a 6-month span.

And if you are a stand-up guy- then I would suggest you avoid dealing with any seller named Mike.

Scorp

Got this from Reddnova today - :)

Why don't you stay the f off my posts. If I wanted your opinion I would have invited you to express it. You know what they say opininions are like assholes and you are beginning to smell like one. By the way is your name Mike too?

Sounds like the guy you'd want to deal with doesn't he?

Can't make a deal without crying about the other guy and then when you point that out he cries because you dont agree with him.

I am not the guy who can't seem to get along with sellers- YOU ARE.

Scorp

Dang dude you came here to get help or vent, If you don't want it then don't post it :!: :!: Scorp didn't start this thread YOU did :!: :!:

Why don't you stay the f off my posts. If I wanted your opinion I would have invited you to express it. You know what they say opininions are like assholes and you are beginning to smell like one. By the way is your name Mike too?---------- WHAT A DICKHEAD :roll: MUST HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST MIKE'S. ONE OF US MUST HAVE KICKED HIS AZZ BACK IN GRADE SCHOOL! :twisted:

Damn, and I was wanting to work a trade with this guy! hahahah

TRADE?
 

BEWARE!
His S#!T Is GOLD and Yours will be WORTH DIRT!
Later
G :shock:

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

I did not come on here to get help. I came on here to warn future traders who may be doing business with these losers who waste your time and mine and don't have the balls to let you know they have backed out of the deal.

THAT IS ALL!

You came on here to complain. You have no desire to hear a conflicting opinion from anyone-

Here is a comment from Rudy Holloway on one of your previous posts:

"Greg,
Thanks for the heads up! Bart and I have a little email banter going on here.....I will use him for whatever fun I can get out of him, then be done!

BTW Bart, if you just hit the "post reply" button on your thread, add your incredible wit, it will automatically bring it back to the top.
Need help figuring anything else out, just drop me a note!
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I started with nothing, I still have most of it left.

Missin' Jay everyday! USMC KIA Iraq 10-21-05
USA- Home of the free BECAUSE of the brave!
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You didnt like what Rudy had to say so you got chippy. Rudy has earned his credibility here- YOU HAVE NOT.

You pm me with some crap about not posting on your thread- I laughed for 10 minutes when I read it. I also think its interesting that you wouldnt open my response- still sitting in the outbox unread. Why because you dont like someone with a different opinion.

You dont care what anyone has to say, Napolean. You just want to complain and have your voice be the loudest in the room, AND this is why no one wants to deal with you.

Scorp

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

There are too many people on here with no life but to nose in on other people's complaints. RJ should bar all you nosey guys who instead of helping, make matters worse.

Like I said, I didn't ask for your help or ignorant opinion. You just make matters worse. The self appointed nose! If you work for RJ as a moderator etc. it's ok! Others with the nose problem is not ok! I bet you guys and your opinions are on almost all scammer post's in here. Yes, I have looked!

I only want other traders to know who these people are they are dealing with so their time isn't wasted too.

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

And in the mean time you have let others know not to deal with you too. JMO.

When you make a post on the forum you have asked anyone and everyone to give input and their opinion. Most of the regular guys on here want both sides of the story so they can try to resolve the issue.

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

You're Hilarious Bart

NO but Scorp basically called the guy a liar. All the guy said was the guy backed out on the deal and wouldn't answer the phone,and then Scorp turns it around on him and suggests that HE is the problem. HOW is that "help"

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

I have 26 posts on here and Scorp has 952......Wow you really are nosey! I am going to read some of your posts meddling into other people's business!

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

don't forget to read the ones where he has gone above and beyond to help people solve their problems on here, its shouldn't be hard since thats almost ALL of them :!:

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

... yup you have 27 posts.....and might I say you have gotten off to a great start.... :roll:........ moron :!:

Tod-

My point is that I think its odd that this guy is on here twice in 6 months complaining about people. That all three have the same name is a side-coincidence.

I went back and read the posts from Bart on the Mike Jenkins thread as well as the posted email and I don't think it was clear-cut that he was right and Jenkins was wrong.

Then he posts on here about these two Mike's in Ocala who supposedly screwed him.

Now go take a look at Rudy Holloway's posts where Bart attacked him when he was trying to help. Then I start getting PMs from him telling me to butt out.

So it looks to me like this guy is difficult to deal with and likely a bully. My opinion and allowed when you post on a public forum, correct?

Do me a favor Tod, go back and read the Jenkins thread, Rudy's posts and do so from the position that maybe bart was wrong- If you do that you will see my point I think.

Bottom line is this, I didnt attack him initially, just said i didnt believe him. He then basically told me to shut up. Extreme? I think so if you have a tendency to try and bully people. That's what they do.

Do I think he is partially to blame? Yep. Do I think he is a liar? Let's just say he's not objective.

Do I think he is hilarious? yep.

Scorp

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

Now its 953, Bart.

Oh, wait add another.

Scorp

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

Well over half of my few posts are because of Scorp's BS. I have read his advice and it is BS just like he is. He is a wannabe and just full of it.

There is something wrong when someone pays for this service, posts a complaint then is shot because he is the messenger.

Scorp, just stay off of my threads and by the way the message I sent him was private but he isn't man enough to deal with himself, he has to bring it to the gereral forum for support. Man up Scorp. I don't want to waste any more og my time hearing your BS.

STAY OFF MY THREADS!

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

I am on your threads bart and I will continue to be :)

Don't like it? Oh well.

Scorp

BTW, I like the way you went hidden to post this :)

955 posts and counting.............

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

BTW, "of" is not spelled "og"

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

What service did you pay for?? The forum is free :!: :?: :!: :?: :lol:

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

Pretty childish. This site, like many others has lost all sense of professionalism and class.

Well- by default I will say I trust what Scorp has said. He does not sink his teeth into something with ignorance. In fact, out of anyone here, he digs the deepest. The fact that bothers you Bartie is suspicious... the facts of your past posts are also suspicious... a counter attack on Scorp makes you look cheap & desperate... taking the attention off the subject of your behavior & trying to turn it to Scorp. I don't think you are a bully... I think you may be a good old fashioned whiner who has to have his way...

Scorp I know the work you have done to help people on here. I'm sure your opinion of this guy was formed based on facts, however I do not need to read those other threads because my comment was only specific to this thread.

Mark told him if he didn't want help don't ask for it.
Nothing you posted to him in this thread was intended to help him.

That was my only point.Nothing more,nothing less.

I am in no way saying your opinion of him is inacurate.

Tod you are absolutely correct. I didn't try to help him at all, after I read the other threads, my gut told me that the other guys might need a bit of balance. Its not always the guys who yell the loudest and first who are always right.

CCperf- your're right too. Shouldn't have posted that. But I am entitled to a couple like that.

Bottom line is this, I told bart I didnt agree with him, and I thought he was part of the problem. Entitled to that opinion. Still believe it but I will leave him alone. He showed me what I wanted to see.

Scorp

Don't misunderstand what I was saying. I absolutely agree you are entitled to that opinion,and should post it as many here(me included) respect your judgement on deals gone wrong.

It wasn't a deal gone wrong because the deal never happened it looks like it was cancelled by both parties :!: :!:

Hey Tod, I respect that you do not always share the same view as what is popular. Don't be afraid to say what you mean.. even if it is contradictory. I think it shows character in you. Hell, half the time I am riding on less info than Scorp has on these guys... I go by the gut... sometimes I am completely wrong myself. In the end, by default I side with the old timers here cuz they are my pals. Know what I mean?

Agreed.... but I got the impression Scorp was saying he would just start keeping his opinion to himself,and that would be a bad thing.

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

I posted this thread as INFORMATION FEEDBACK so other traders would know what kind of deal to expect from MikeandMike of Ocala. That is all!

I did not expect or will I ever accept someone coming on her and attacking me for doing that. It is just plain wrong for ANYONE to do that.

I am done with all this bs and this simple little information thread has been taken totally out of context and much bad opinion and fabrication added to it.

For those of you who read all this bs, I am sorry for wasting your time. I revert back to my original complaint which was only FEEDBACK and I stand by it and my other few complaints.

I have made many trades and sales on here and only a few problems and love RJ.

Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers
 

Guess what Bart- people are allowed to have opinions other than yours.

Simply said after reading all your posts as well as your PMs to Rudy Holloway and myself - I still believe your attitude was part of the reason these guys didnt want to deal with you.

Can't stand an opinion other than yours- Grow up, the world works that way sometimes.

A different opinion then yours doesnt equal BS- Someone could turn that around and say your complaint or opinion is BS- Now couldnt they? True or false? AN OPINION.

Scorp

HONOR PAYMENTS --ANYONE LISTENING!!!!!!!

BART, YOU MAY HAVE MADE MANY TRADES AND SALES ON RJ BUT U FORGOT THE H O N O R PAYMENTS. AN HONORABLE MAN PAYS HIS WAY. GENE

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
 

First of all, how would you know?

Second is I have made trades only on here. No sales. I might have mistated that. I have made sales but not here.

Third, I wish I had made some sales on here but we all know what is going on with the economy and people just aren't buying. Most are only trading.

Fourth, I pay for this service and other than RJ wanting to get more money from me and everyone else, I have no obligation to them for honor payments. I pay for my service and that is what I get! They don't give me anything extra and I have no obligation to them to give them extra.

Finally, It is my business whatever I choose to do!