a non payer (etdidit)
 

This guy makes a deal to buy my Blower set up.. Agree's to pay 1/2 of the shipping.. ET (is his name) wires the money.. His bank charges my bank 35 bucks for the tranfer.. The extra 100 bucks he sent does not cover 1/2 of the shipping.. He is about 50 bucks short plus the extra 35 for the money transfer. I still have the Blower manifold at my house. I asked for another 50 for shipping and the 35 for the money transfer.. He say's I am out landish and refuse's to pay the extra.. So I am now not shipping the manifold.. Refuse's to wire the rest cause it cost's to much.. So send a bank check to my home.. Say's he cant find my address.. I gave it to him and still NO CHECK.. No e-mails me threating to take me to court!! he says I will be served at my house with papers (the address he does not have) So he also threatens to slander me on every website known to man, saying I did not do my part... he has everything but the manifold.. Oh I almost forgot.. His new deal is I should now just give him $500.00 bucks back and call it even. LMFAO

is ET his online name ??
is there more to than just ET ??? To the name ???

Thanks

Yep...just send his money back..and say sorry i do not want to deal with you..i will just sell the intake to some one else..oohh wait a minute,the buyer has the blower set up..but you still have the intake..an dhe has the rest of it ????

WHY SHIP
 

Why did you ship the blower when he was short on the payment?Did you come to an agreement on the rest?The deal should have been terminated when the payment was short & sent back to the buyer-Also one other thing,Why wasnt the manifold shipped with the blower? Was'nt it part of the deal? If you accepted his money you should have sent the parts-Or like I stated sent his money back & terminated the deal--Just my opinion-

First off,..you say ET has slandered you on other websites,..
...what websites are those ???????????

second do you have his phone number ?? and address ???

Does Et have your address and phone number ?????

sounds like miscomunication on both parts,...

Did you tell ET one price to ship this stuff ?? ,..and then it wound up
being more ???

Did ET tell you he would pay you the extra money you asked for the shipping ?????

Did ET tell you he would also give you the extra bank charge money of $35.00.. ????

Has ET tried to contact you to get a address to send a money order or bank check ????

Have you just plain quit answering his phone cAll, or emails ??????

DO YOU STILL HAVE THE INTAKE....??????


Here is my name
Vic Miller

good solid questions...

i must be slow because something dont sound right.i m lost on this one.

He sent me 4,000 bucks for everything. Head top pay for half the shipping.. He paid 3/4 of it so far.. He still needs to send me another $135.00 for fee's and shipping. I know it does not seem like a lot of money but, I agreed to take 1,000 less for everything and he would pay shipping. I am not sending his money back because I used it to pay bills.. No other reson to sell it.. I dont have the extra money to ship it.. All he has to do is wire the remaing mioney and I will ship it to him.. He refuse's to transfer the money.. Why I dont know.. he wired the frist 4,000 and got everything but the manifold.. He told me he refused to wire transfter the money, so he then said he would mail a money order.. Thats fine, nothing came. I sent me address in e-mail and told him on the phone.. He said he lost it.. So I told him to go screw himself untill I get the extra. All of a sudden he wants to sue me and will have me served at my house... Well, if before he said he don't have an address for me then how all of a sudden does he have one to serve me with papers?????? next he says he wants 500 bucks back and he will drop the whole thing!!! he's crazy!!! Not sending the 500.00 to him, so all he has to do is send the 100 for shipping and he can have his 1,000 manifold.

If he has your phone number, for about $20 he can get every piece of info available on you from public record databases. having you served wont pose a problem.

Resolve the deal as originally agreed upon. If you didnt disclose additional costs up front, its not right to hit the buyer with them in the middle of the transaction. At that point you need to disclose and discuss to keep the deal on track. If the buyer doesnt or did not agree to extra costs, you dont have the right to charge them.

As to having spent the money, if you end up in Court that will have no impact on the decision, and is really not even relevant to this discussion.

Scorp

non-payer (etdidit)
 

Hey Guys. This is ET (Eddie Taylor). I am the one ALTERED 526 (Michael-Mike-Renzetti) is telling lies about. I spent 1/2 hour this morning trying to respond to this, hit "submit" and thought I had responded but nothing showed up on the Forum. So, I'm trying again.

I have sent bjuice a personal message about this matter but I have not heard back from him yet. I've waited to respond until I hear from Brian and have been getting my ducks in a row. The story you have read about from ALTERD 526 is so far from the truth it is ridiculous. Fortunately I have copies of tons of emails between the two of us that will tell the real story.

Some of you are sharp enough that you can already sense that something is just not right with his side of the story. The truth shall vindicate me and show what kind of person this guy really is.

I will back in touch when I've heard fron Brian (bjuice) and have all my stuff together.

Sincerely.......Eddie Taylor (E.T.)
[email protected]

If I read the first post right , his $100.00 bucks didn't cover 1/2 the shipping , he needs to send $50 more , that would mean the shipping on a blower would be $300.00 right?? :shock: I have shipped a many a blower around this country and the most I ever paid was $75.00 and that was a complete set up,,,usually around $40.00 for just blower...If I sent someone $4000.00 for a blower set up and another 100 for shipping and they kept the intake and held it ransom for more money , I would be pissed...seems like wrong person complaining to me...JMO :D

ET
 

I am in agreement with slickfuel on this. Too many questions unanswered in this deal. If the seller didn't get the correct shipping info, it falls on the seller. Can't expect tha buyer to cover your error.

Ok lets get this straight,... All qoates are of ALTEREDS POST, and my question/response to the qoutes

Did you send him everything that you agreed for $4,000..NO
You still have the manifold

Et agreed to pay for half of the shipping , you told him how much it was, but you did not ship the intake manifold,..why not. if you had $4,000 why do you not have the money to ship it along with the blower etc,...
and he sent you a extra $100.00 but you still did not ship the intake ,..why not ???

so ET did send you a extra $100.00 or was this " the half of agreed shipping amount" and you are asking for more ??

why does he not have the manifold, if he paid for it.

Ok so the stuff costed you ALTERED more than you thought to ship the parts, but ET has already paid you (per the agreement) for 1/2 the shipping,..why another $100.00 ??? I understand the $35 for the bank fee,..but just exactly how much money did you plan to make off of ET from the shipping ????

so he doesnt have to send you the $35 for the bank fees now ????

I thought you and ET agread that ET would pay for 1/2 the shipping ???

SO ALL HE NEEDS TO DO IS SEND YOU $85.00 AND THIS IS A DONE DEAL,..WHICH $17.00 TO $27.00 OUT OF THE $85.00 WILL BE USED FOR SHIPPING THE INTAKE ,..RIGHT

these are gettin easier and easier day by day to figure out when someone is blowin smoke up asses! very vague intial posts lacking specific details, piss poor typing and grammar skills and then when the supposed bad guy pops on here and tells the real story, the accuser just vanishes. gotta love it!!!

SELLER IS PISSING OVER PENNEYS, HE GOT 4K PLUS 100 FOR AGREED SHIPPING. BUYER LIVED UP TO HIS END , SELLER NEEDS TO DO THE SAME. TAKE THE LITTLE EXTRA SHIPPING ON THE CHIN & SEND THIS GUY HIS MANIFOLD!!

Way to call a spade a spade sickfuel. What a joke... seems like the wrong guy that is complaining to me.... ship the guy what he ordered!! This dude is going to be hard pressed to convince it is ok to hold the product from the buyer on this one if he keeps changing his story & making up new charges for the buyer. WTH!!! Scooter

ok listen Altered this is really boiling down to $50.00 bucks give or take a few....as slick fuel described.

i know times are hard but come on man..its not worth all of this for such a small amount of money..No matter who is wrong or Right.....it just doesn't matter at this point..you stand to gain much more now and down the road if you just send the intake to the man.

don't matter what your beliefs are....you can sell yourself short in life..

For what its worth.

This week i was in a fast food restaurant (KFC)..a lady was trying to pay for her food with Pennies..i let her pay for it ( didn't want to embarrass her or insult her pride by stepping in at counter)....i finished eating before her and as i was leaving i handed her (5) one dollar bills folded up..and told her to pass it on when she could.

Now this isn't about me getting an ATTA-BOY or anything....its about stepping up and doing the right thing..No matter if you have a point to prove or not...there's just a time in a man's life when he has to do himself a favor and just move on....you don't want to live with this Altered..its not worth it..


Brian

qoute from ALTERED

I would say you F`d up, $4,000.00 and you spent it all on bills ???

So in other words you couldnt send his Intake to him if you tried, unless
he sends you more money,...thats messed up Altered,..even with him sending you the EXTRA money,..you still didnt ship the Intake.

why did you not ship the Intake with the rest of the blower ?????????


,..THE PROSECUTION REST`S.......


:D :D :D

non-payer(etdidit)
 

Brian--please check your private message. Thanks.....E.T.

X2, BJUICE

Re: non-payer(etdidit)
 

i sent you a pm earlier..sending you another.

a non payer (etdidit)
 

This is going to be a long post so you might want to get the popcorn out!

It has been suggested that I show the emails between ALTERD 526 and myself in order to illustrate the mis-truths he has written concerning this matter. I'm sorry but I'm just not computer literate enough to do that. Pasteing, copying, highlighting, etc. is just something I've never done with a computer and even if told how to do it, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it and it would probably take me a day and a half. I can forward emails but I don't guess that would help in this situation. What address would I forward emails to?

Anyway, here is a thumb nail sketch of this situation. ALTERD 526 (HIS spelling, not mine) had an ad on RJ. His name is Michael or Mike Renzetti. The ad #'s are: 1468541 and 1490712 and says he is from West Palm Beach, Florida. I'll try to keep this brief.

I made an offer to Mike and he instantly accepted that offer. I told him I would pay $4000. and 1/2 of verifiable shipping charges for his 871 blower, Birdcatcher injection system, fuel pump, pullys, belt, etc. Everything except an extension that goes between the camshaft and fuel pump. He said he would pay for the shipping and when it had been done he would send me invoices showing the charges and I could then send him my 1/2.

I ask him if he had a way to take payment by me using my Visa card. He said no. He wanted my bank to wire the money to his bank. Before I could even get to my bank and make arrangements, he told me shipping would be $200. and for me to go ahead and send him $100. in addition to the purchase price. I did do that. My bank wired his bank $4100. My bank charged me $20. to handle this for me.

Next thing I know, he is telling me he now needs more shipping money plus he wants me to pay him $35. that he says his bank charged him for handling the transaction. Remember that $35. figure.

He wants my bank to wire his bank more shipping money PLUS another $35. to cover another wiring of money. I tell him that I really don't think I should pay the original $35. because he was the one who wanted the transaction handled that way. I also tell him I would send more shipping money and I would pay the original $35. bank fee just to go ahead and get this over with. My bank charged me $20. to wire it to his bank & his bank (he said) charged him $35. I agreed to handle this one time. When he wanted more shippingmoney & ANOTHER $35. I told him I would not do it that way because it would cost me ANOTHER $55. I told him if he would send me a mailing address I would purchase a United States Postal Money Order and send it to him to cover additional shipping charge & initial charges by his bank. I have now requested on four different occassions a mailing address so we could conclude this transaction. He will not provide me an address and the correct amount for additional shipping charges has changed 3 times!

Just out of curiosity I went to my bank today and asked if it was normal for the person receiving the funds to be charged to handle this by their bank. I was told it is indeed normal and if it were reversed (his bank sending me money) my banks fee to me would be $10. I told my bank that he said his bank charged $35. My bank then called his bank in Florida (I live in Texas) and his bank told my bank their charge is $15.!!! NOT $35.

In conclusion, this has been an experience I wouldn't want any one to go through. ALTERD 526 still has stuff for sale on RJ. Be very, very careful if you are going to have any dealings with him.

I would send him a money order for his real bank fee and a proveable amount of shipping charges if indeed my 1/2 hasn't been taken care of.
I would do that to get the manifold and burst panels. Even more than getting the manifold, I'd prefer a reimbursement that he agreed to in a email I have from him. His manifold is for a tall deck BBC and I'd really prefer one for standard height deck. BUT....I'll take what I've already paid for and just can't seem to get.

Thanks to all for hearing or reading my tale of woe.

Sincerely...........Eddie Taylor (E.T.)
[email protected]

:shock: :shock: Man i would say long, glad i have a hold button, that read cost me two bag's of popcorn :!: :!: I SMELL A RAT :roll: :roll: Dang it feel's sooooo good to be back :!: :!: Hey Alterd526 can you show us what your bank charged you on this :?: And what was the total weight of the part's :?: I just sent some from virginia to washington state that was over 60 lbs and it was $52.00 from where i work :!:




''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

I still want to know how he shipped it that cost $300.00,,TAXI CAB :?:

NA, NANI PELOSI'S JET :roll:

:shock: :shock: For $300.00 shipping it must have taken the 48 state senic tour :lol: :lol: :!: :!:

What is ALTEREDS526 address..

WE WILL GO PICK YOUR INTAKE FOR YOU.

:shock: :shock: :shock:

What is his add # for this other stuff for sale

Mr Taylor,

I think you did what you were supposed to do, he ask for a bank transfer,because of the credit card, if i read it right, you sent the $100.00 shipping and didn't get what you paid for in the transaction. I personally feel he owes you the manifold and it's his bag to ship it too you at his cost period. I don't know if this will work out but in my opinion he owes you. I understand that finances can get tight in todays times but it's still his nickle and he does owe you the manifold shipped to your door. After reading this whole thread, he should have shipped everthing to you in the beginning and this would not be happening today as we read it. I personally would not do business with him after reading this thread, no matter if his parts were exactly what i needed. I hope he see the light and comes through with the original deal that was agreed too.

I don't know about shipping cost, but for me to ship my 1471 to Mert Littlefield in Ca. from Louisanna is $55.00

If either one or both of you would have had a paypal account, the cost would not have been but $12.00 for the money transfer.

JMO

Zip.

ET:

If you have his phone number I can tell you how to get his address AND any piece of personal information that he has in ANY searchable database. It will cost you another $20- but I think you are already all in anyway (and the search engine is perfectly legal)

BTW, here is the definition of extortion from Wickipedia:

Extortion, outwresting, or exaction is a criminal offense, which occurs, when a person unlawfully obtains either money, property or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence or a lawsuit which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence or lawsuit is sufficient to commit the offense. Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] additionally, exact in its formal definition means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or to make somebody endure something unpleasant.[2]

In the United States, extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by mail or in using any instrument of "interstate commerce." Extortion requires that the individual sent the message "willingly" and "knowingly" as elements of the crime. The message only has to be sent (but does not have to reach the intended recipient) to commit the crime of extortion.

Read the first sentence; you could make the case that he is attempting to obtain money from you by using failure to ship the manifold as a form of coercion. It does not have to be violance to meet the definition above.

Long story short, Mr Renzetti should send you the manifold, because if you really want to make an example of him you can go after him.

Scorp

Sounds like the only ones who came out smelling like a rose were the banks!
$20 here $35 there, what a rip!

Note to self, never wire money.

YOU ASK - YOU RECEIVE
 

Altered,

You came here and posted looking for answers as to if your right I assume..

You have gotten your replies and I think it is a land slide decision that you need to send the man his manifold and call the deal done...Anything less will make you look bad in many eyes and if that matters to you I do not know, but remember you came to us not the other way around....

Altered,
If you agreed on and received $4,100.00 send the man's part.Done deal.As for the $35.00 bank fee,Not his problem.I sent a blower setup and fuel hat and some other parts from alabama to north west washington.I agreed on $100.00 shipping.When i shipped it costed me $140.00 UPS had a fuel surcharge and charge for oversize package that i didn't account for. I did the right thing.I sent man's parts.It wasn't his fault.I would have felt like a jerk if i had asked him for more money.

:( :( Now guy's we all know we have had some good scammers on here and they ''ALL'' have been caught for what they really are, this guy in my book rates right up at the top, he has gotten money every time he ask for it, he need's to send the manifold, HEY BEAST YOU STILL HAVE THAT LIST :?: :?: Hey ''ALTERED'' you can't ride the bus either :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

bunch of girls
 

Like a bunch of litle girls.. He has all of his fucking stuff.. Holly crap!! LOL
No need to respond to this, I dont read this crap, somebody told me of how little pany weray eddie is crying, only reason im back on here

What he finally got his manifold? Is that what you're saying? Wow this must mean you're a "GREAT" guy to deal with now. What have you got i can buy.LOL

Altered, you started the thread but yet you dont read this stuff on here? Sounds like you opened your own can of worms...

etdidit--non payer
 

Hey guys. I will catch everybody up on this deal after Tue. 5-12-09. Thanks to all who posted--except the ALTERD dude. As I type this there is no manifold in my possesion. Later.......E.T.

Re: bunch of girls
 

You are a real classy guy Altered... yet you are the issue & the problem. You remind me of a LIBERAL POLITICIAN trying to tell me why I should pay more taxes. This whole thing is real simple... MAKE IT RIGHT. Your defensivness & obnoxious attitude is not necesary. Just do the right thing & quit making EXCUSES. Scooter

I would rather be called a ''little girl'' Than a damn ripoff artist, You are one of those folks that get's it going then bails out, You might as well do the right thing, we all see you now for what you really are, Was being a ripoff bread into you or did you have to work at it to learn it :?: You are really a piece of work :!: :!: ''SHEW'' now i got that off my chest back to my popcorn :!:

''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

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