chevguy65 I know what you are talking about. Its times like these that people find out what kind of engine builders we are giving our hard earned money to. But I believe that we are at the beginning of a turning point of our time with these matters. Because of the Internet and these Forums. So we can tell each other where not to go. Unfortunately there will be lots more money lost before we find them all and wish these lessons was not made from your money. Wesley

I know all about trying to find a good price on everything for my project. Being from Canada very often the pricing is high here. Even with the Canadian doller as good as it is, the prices don't change mutch. I was cosidering ordering an engine from dyno flow. After reading everything here i have changed my mind. I will support my local machine shop and buy from him. It will cost a little more, but if there is a problem i know he will look after me. And i will feel good that i supported local buiseness.

JMECH---GREAT IDEA!!!!-----------------ANOTHER ONE GONE SCOTT 8) :oops: 8) :oops: 8)

I was cosidering ordering an engine from dyno flow. After reading everything here i have changed my mind. I will support my local machine shop and buy from him. It will cost a little more, but if there is a problem i know he will look after me. And i will feel good that i supported local buiseness.

jmech, I think you have made a very wise decision...congratulations 8)

I know he made a wise decision!!!

That is unless you want to buy from dynoflow, get the engine, pull it apart and build it all over again. That is what Scot says you need to do if you buy one of his engines.
Otherwise it is a POS that is incorrect bore and it will have a mystery bolt issue where he will let it out the door with incorrectly torqued bolts.

I JUST SAW A NEW DYNA FLO AD FREE TOURQWRENCH WITH ANY NEW SHORT BLOCK. PLEASE!!!!! CALL SCOTT. 1-800 -ISCREWU

"I don't care who you are, that's funny right there"

THAT IS GREAT!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

My brother inlaw bought a 598 shortblock from Dynoflow 3years ago.That same motor has been in 3 cars and never has missed a beat.This year will be the first time it's been freshened up since new.Maybe he's a lucky one.I've been thinking about a short block from them for my self.Are they still having problems or have they straightened them out?

I would look at someone else for your engine.

Scot has done absolutely nothing to rectify this matter and I doubt he ever will.

Your brother in law defiately got lucky.

Personally I would not trust scot to build a model engine for me.

It is up to you but if you use him and get screwed, just remember you were warned ahead of time.

Like Carl said I would not take a chance and also while they are doing a freshen up get them to check the bore x stroke to see if its what they said to was. That is if Dyno flow is not doing the work.

That just shows even a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then.


Steve

I would guess that the cap screws were only torque to spec once instead of the four times required to acheive proper stretch as listed by Eagle in all of their paper work.

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LOL thunder.

You have no idea...but you are entitled to your opinion.
Do you work for scot?

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Well, I see about 1000 people that disser with your opinion.

If I were to double check everyone's work that had told me it is done right, that is all I would do.

The "mechanic" you refer to is a complete hot rod builder and this was the 1st engine he bought without building it himself.
He does a lot more than sit on an engine for 18 months.

Let me ask you a question.
If you had a home built, or bought a new car from a dealership, are you going to go and double check all of their work?
Now, if you say yes, I will flat out call you a liar.

When I bought my last engine, I did not pull it apart to see if it was done correctly and waste my and my builders time. I trusted that what he did was correct.

I am just stating that the buyer should not have to take on that responsibility, tes your correct that if he had it would have saved some money because the engine would have gone right back to scot. Not only were the rod bolts not torqued correctly, but it was not even the correct bore & stroke.

Now, if you found that your engine (supposedly a 454 sbc) was in fact a 521 or 434, are you going to finish the bore on it yourself, to save money, or send it back and expect a full refund, because if he can't get that right what can he do right.

Didn't mean to offend if I did, just pointing out that your logic seems flawed in my opinion.

PS...the "mechanic" you refer to is very good at what he does, so please stop with the personal attacks on him.

Thanks

YOU KNOW I AM A CONTRACTOR-AND I LOOK AT MY SUBS WORK AND VISUALLY DOUBLE CHECK THINGS BUT IF I HAD TO CHECK EVERYTHING IN DETAIL I WOULD GO BROKE[YOUR HIRING THEM TO DO IT RIGHT]-IF IT FAILS THEY DO BACK IT UP OR FACE THE TROUBLE WITH OTHER CONTRACTORS LATER ON :oops: :oops: --SAME WITH BUILDING CARS AND ENGINES[DO IT RIGHT OR DON'T DO IT!!!]--IF YOU THINK THAT A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY LIKE DYNOFLO/ BOWERS/ OR ALOT OF OTHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD AND SELL JUNK AND NOT GET CAUGHT AND PUNISHED BY OTHER RACERS THEN YOU MUST LIVE IN A SHELL PULLED DOWN TIGHT!!!---NOW I SAID IT AND FEEL A WHOLE LOT BETTER 8) 8)-LIVELY IN ILLINOIS[P.S.-I HAVE DONE THIS 36 YEARS AND STILL HATE JUNK WORKMANSHIP]

Well shoot if I have to check everyboby's work I might as well do it myself. But since I don't have time to do everthing I would hire a pro. If the pro doesn't do it right, it is on his shoulders, and he has a responsibilty to me to make it right.

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I do not disagree on some things, but if he built the shortblock, from what your saying he (the mechanic) should have torn it down and re-assembled it himself, because if he found the rod bolts loose he sure as hell would have. At that point what is the point of buying an assembled shortblock???? And where is the $$$ savings?

And what about it being the wrong bore size, do you check that too?

It sounds to me as if you spend way to much time going over work that should be correct in the 1st place. So, where is the money savings on that?

My labor is also worth something.

Just doesn't make sense to me.

Bottom line is, the man PAID for an assembled shortblock...HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO!

If you have your oil changed at the service station and you drive off and the motor locks up becouse they forgot to put oil back into it are you going to say, "Ol' well.....its not a big deal guys, I should have double checked you." Hell no, you would want someone to fix the engine. Same as here. Man mad a mistake, maybe it was his only mistake ever, but it doesnt matter. TRY to make it right.

I think passing the buck is worse than screwing up in the first place.

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I have used the same engine builder for 25 years now and not one time have i ever checked his work .
Now one time about 3 years ago he called me and told me to double check the timing chain bolts and i did and they were fine but he thought of it before i got it put in the car but why pay some one if you have to go over everything they do .
If you are going to do that then just have the machine work done and put it together yourself and save the money whats the point of paying them to put it together if you have to redo it .
Just my 2 cents worth them bolts didn't come loose because it sat on a engine stand they just wasn't torqued the first time .

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Where do you get your info Thunder?

You are so off base it's funny.

Now go get with your buddy scot and tell him his tactics do not work and to be a man and fix this problem for "the mechanic".

Donn is a stand up guy and you bashing him is not going to earn you any points here.

Bottom line is scot screwed up and that is it PERIOD end of story!!!!.

You have made it quite clear that you check what a so called professional has done and you are superior because of that.
You seem to have a lot more time on your hands than the rest of us to be able to check what is SUPPOSED to be done in the 1st place.

Now, unless you have some type of facts that pertain to this thread, I suggest you please stop bashing Donn.

Thanks

Hey Chev, don't bash the kid, he's Dynablows new engine guru. And he uses a 50 year old beam torque wrench.

I do alot of suspension mods on off-roaders. Should I slack and let the customer check the job I was supposed to do correctly the first time? No. I do the job right the first time. That means the customer is happy, and we get repeat business from that along with referrals.

Don't matter what business you're in, if you screw up, you'll pay for it one way or the other.

Well thunder must have a lot of time and a lot of money to throw away if he goes over everything he pays someone to do for him i wish we all had customers like him .
If the people that i have do work for me and i have to check there work then i don't need them.

newby here & jumped into something i should have just read & keep quiet, i'm listening now :wink:

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I think this last page has added alot of value to just how true Tom's method of "Name Tagging" such as Dyno operator, Racing Junkie and Back Yard Mechanic is actually more precise than we first gave it credit for...Please do not misunderstand, but everyone has a starting catagory and then they proceed from the first catagory and work their way up to Master Mechanic and I did not type engine builder being paid for work either....If you get paid for work I don't care if it is digging a damn ditch you got paid, so do your JOB>>>Period.....................

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Lotsa454sss;

AMEN Brother!

AL

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Right on :)

Hey 454 did you give your pig some sauce? last nite i saw him flying around the yard.

Zip.

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BOY -THIS WAS STARTING TO GET HOT AND HEAVY THUNDER71--I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING DOWN SOME LIGHTNING TO STOP THE THUNDER!!!!!---WELCOME TO THE SITE BUT CAREFULLY APPROACH THE FUNNY FARM ON HERE[ :twisted: WE CAN AND DO BITE TO DEFEND OUR FELLOW RACERS :twisted: ]----LIVELY---BY THE WAY THUNDER , WHERE ARE YOU FROM? 8)

lmao 8) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nah zipper I ain't given him anything...Maybe it was you in the sauce if you saw pigs flying..LMFAO..Sorry Zip I could not let that one pass....You know your my bud so I could get by with that one...bjuice is LHAO too...Maybe it is wacky backy or as I used to call them a FATTIE in another life...."DYNOBLO" it won't go....Oh yea, glad to have you on there Thunder, enjoy yourself and meet the gang

Thanks Thunder71.....now sit back and enjoy the site!

I am sure you will add value to the group and learn a few things along the way.

I have learned a lot from the guys here, there are so many top notch folks it's hard not to.

Thanks for understanding. It takes a man with character to admit a mistake.

Did sombody say something about a fatty!!! :D HEY PIG YOURE SUPPOSE TO SHARE!

i guess they havent done anything to make this right have they fastbowtie

yeah my wife did when she said hey fatty get your own remote. :shock: