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lotsof454sss 05-04-2007 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by lotsof454sss
uhhhhh Avery, I looked at it twice so reduce that by number by one, but I did tell 25 people about it in person so they would all know.....Does that still mean 8610 :?: :lol: :lol: Boy I would like to buy some "good advertising" for what this would have cost in the beginning to work with the customer in correcting the situation...This sure is a hell of a lot of "bad advertising" for a small amount it would have cost to eat a few parts out of $2 million in inventory.....Agreed anyone :?: Can I get ah 'Hell Yea"..................

I said it before and I will now say it again....Plus I can see I must have been right, "AGAIN"...So I will gloat in silence now.... :lol:

...Also I would think it took alot of time out of torqueing bolts to go look up every where you have sc____ up....

fastbowtie 05-04-2007 06:33 AM

I found this Post
Scot Do you see A pattern here

http://home.comcast.net/~britz5/Dyn.htm

fastbowtie 05-04-2007 06:44 AM

I also Really LIkE this post this post so I joined & posted myself

http://www.lvfbody.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25617

lively 05-04-2007 08:54 AM

BOYS AND GIRLS IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD FOR SCOTT---THE PRESSURE IS ON IN ALOT OF PLACES- PRETTY SOON HE WILL TRY A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST EVERYONE THAT HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS ENGINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAT WOULD BE A BIG SUIT :shock: :shock: :shock:

lotsof454sss 05-04-2007 10:09 AM

FOR SALE BANKRUPT ENGINE BUILDING COMPANY
 
If this guy thinks he can bulldog over everyone I am afraid he is in for another lesson....YOU NEED TO CUT YOUR LOSES BUB :!: He will need a whole army of lawyers and he should get some that were better at sueing than the ones that sued craigslist.com...Hell they owe craigslist a ton in lawyer fees now on top off getting their ass kicked in court...What a joke and making himself look worse all the time.... Get a judge to sign that email and then maybe you got something but til then......Anyone want to buy a engine building company at bankrupt prices :?:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/boho27/bull.jpg

Ace437 05-04-2007 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by fastbowtie
Mitch Believe what you want Like I said If there is doubt call the Owner who checked them at SSRE the phone # is in a prior post .Hindsight is 20/20 If I would have known about any problems with DynoFlo Yes I would have checked them but we felt confident in their motors .So what you are saying is even though You ,I or anyone else that purchases a motor from a builder it,s our responcibility to recheck everything we paid them to do :?: Well maybe Im wrong for not checking them and putting my confidence in DynoFlo but regaurdless it should have been done rite the first time .This post wasnt brought over to the Scammer section from the General section To just complain about the Hand tight Rod Bolts from DynoFlo But also to show how I was treated over the phone and in emails by Scot Slotten just for implying that one of his motors had A loose Rod Bolt and asking what he would do about it.I will admit I did not put A torque wrench on the bottom End except to torque the oil pump bolt .If you want to think that I am in the wrong for not rechecking their work thats OK because it should have been done correctly at DynoFlo.

Dude, it sucks that you got screwed, but your posts are very painful to read. You need to learn to type and use some more punctuation.

slowman 05-04-2007 12:28 PM

yah you dumb hick learn to spell. never mind you got screwed.

lookingaround 05-04-2007 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by lively
BOYS AND GIRLS IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD FOR SCOTT---THE PRESSURE IS ON IN ALOT OF PLACES- PRETTY SOON HE WILL TRY A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST EVERYONE THAT HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS ENGINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAT WOULD BE A BIG SUIT :shock: :shock: :shock:

i think if had that many law suits going the courts might just catch on to the idea of him screwing people and flip the suit on him

lookingaround 05-04-2007 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Ace437

Originally Posted by fastbowtie
Mitch Believe what you want Like I said If there is doubt call the Owner who checked them at SSRE the phone # is in a prior post .Hindsight is 20/20 If I would have known about any problems with DynoFlo Yes I would have checked them but we felt confident in their motors .So what you are saying is even though You ,I or anyone else that purchases a motor from a builder it,s our responcibility to recheck everything we paid them to do :?: Well maybe Im wrong for not checking them and putting my confidence in DynoFlo but regaurdless it should have been done rite the first time .This post wasnt brought over to the Scammer section from the General section To just complain about the Hand tight Rod Bolts from DynoFlo But also to show how I was treated over the phone and in emails by Scot Slotten just for implying that one of his motors had A loose Rod Bolt and asking what he would do about it.I will admit I did not put A torque wrench on the bottom End except to torque the oil pump bolt .If you want to think that I am in the wrong for not rechecking their work thats OK because it should have been done correctly at DynoFlo.

Dude, it sucks that you got screwed, but your posts are very painful to read. You need to learn to type and use some more punctuation.

get a life dynoblow butt kisser

lookingaround 05-04-2007 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Ace437

Originally Posted by fastbowtie
Mitch Believe what you want Like I said If there is doubt call the Owner who checked them at SSRE the phone # is in a prior post .Hindsight is 20/20 If I would have known about any problems with DynoFlo Yes I would have checked them but we felt confident in their motors .So what you are saying is even though You ,I or anyone else that purchases a motor from a builder it,s our responcibility to recheck everything we paid them to do :?: Well maybe Im wrong for not checking them and putting my confidence in DynoFlo but regaurdless it should have been done rite the first time .This post wasnt brought over to the Scammer section from the General section To just complain about the Hand tight Rod Bolts from DynoFlo But also to show how I was treated over the phone and in emails by Scot Slotten just for implying that one of his motors had A loose Rod Bolt and asking what he would do about it.I will admit I did not put A torque wrench on the bottom End except to torque the oil pump bolt .If you want to think that I am in the wrong for not rechecking their work thats OK because it should have been done correctly at DynoFlo.

Dude, it sucks that you got screwed, but your posts are very painful to read. You need to learn to type and use some more punctuation.

oh yeah english class isn't till tomorrow night. so if you dont care come back then and teach

slowman 05-04-2007 01:40 PM

what lookingaround said. what does spelling have to do with being screwed by a bad engine builder. so don mispelled some words it's all the truth.

lively 05-04-2007 02:31 PM

HEY--HE MAYBE CAN'T SPELL RIGHT BUT I THUNK HEE COOD BIUD ANN INGEN THATT HD A PROPER :lol: :lol: TORQUE SPEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!KEEP IT UP DON 8) 8)

slowman 05-04-2007 03:25 PM

what lively said i think!!!!!!

dilly 05-04-2007 05:27 PM

I would say it was not clearanced properly or if it was an iron eagle block they never drilled for oil returns ?

mcracecars 05-04-2007 05:30 PM

dilly, read throught the whole post, you will be amazed...

grenade 05-04-2007 07:20 PM

Wow, this is not the first time I have heard this. I know of a few other dynoblo problems. Another SBC 434, or 454 that the rod bolts were only hand tight. Car didnt make it 5 minutes.

Its funny when friends say its ok to buy parts from there, but dont even think about having them build something for you..

Talk about service.

GBoven72 05-05-2007 06:48 PM

Wow. I read the whole thing. From someone that would not ever buy a motor from them any way heres my take, and my opinion. Some one scewed the pooch. Scott mite want to try a marker. Every time my motor builder tightens a bolt he puts a slash on it. So after going over them twice there is an X on every bolt head. Easy to see if you missed one or what ever. < Simple and fool prof. Two guys doing the same motor is just bad news to me. To many cooks in the kitchen. And way to easy to get mixed up if doing more then one motor at a time. Who's to say they didn't do one motor 4 times and missed the one right next to it completely. I can tell from the pics the rod bolt fell out thats a givin. I can also tell the motor is still new. So ask your self: Why would a guy loosin the bolts on the rods and then put it all togather, take the time to put it in the car. Do all the plumbing and wiring. And then start the car? Makes no sence at all, none. Scott I hate to say it but if I'm on the jury your f*cked. Cut your losses and fix the mans motor.

shwtime 05-05-2007 11:43 PM

dynoflo wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
wow i cant believe how this thread has taken off i ck this thread every day to see if any one has added to it boy i have to say in the big engine world its hard to get your name out there as to who is good and who to use for your builder and giving your hard earned cash to ive got to say i personnaly spoke to scotts counter man 4 weeks ago about purchasing a 347 ford stroker motor as their prices are cheap and i did ask are the parts blems ?????why so cheap ????? he assured me top of the line and they sell tons and ship every day then i ran across this thread and started reading and also links to other sites i did not know even existed and boy many unhappy people i also notice when someone complains of a probem its never dyno flo its the manafacture prob refering to the locktite ordeal on another site !!! i can not believe this has been let go this long how can you poss think this did not happen in your shop ive looked at every pic motor looks dead new in my opinion i would straiten out this mess put it behind you ------ bad news travels fast !! way faster than good news just my 2 cents worth

lotsof454sss 05-06-2007 08:33 AM

This man can do no wrong so he thinks...When he shuts the doors on a bankrupt business it will not be his fault but all of the customers caused it...He is perfect, it is just the rest of the world that is wrong, and the customer is always wrong regardless of the circumstance involved...$2 million in inventory my ass is what I say, cause your either going to have to do alot of making up or your looking at being a yard mechanic just like the rest of us...That is the term I think you used or I guess I am wrong, huh DYNOCRAP.....

chevguy65 05-06-2007 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by lotsof454sss
This man can do no wrong so he thinks...When he shuts the doors on a bankrupt business it will not be his fault but all of the customers caused it...He is perfect, it is just the rest of the world that is wrong, and the customer is always wrong regardless of the circumstance involved...$2 million in inventory my ass is what I say, cause your either going to have to do alot of making up or your looking at being a yard mechanic just like the rest of us...That is the term I think you used or I guess I am wrong, huh DYNOCRAP.....

He called us back yard mechanics, but I know one hell of alot of so-called back yard mechanics that put scot and his group to shame, at least they know how to torque rod bolts, and they know you have to clearence parts to put in a block, sounds from other links I have read that scott just takes the parts and slops them into a block and calls it done.

I have talked with several racers as well as custom rodders in my area about scot and his company, many have already known about his crappy engines and others were happy to find out what kind of crap he puts out.
One guy is in the market for an engine and plans on 800hp and spending over 10 grand to get it, but he will not be looking to scot to build it.

To bad he just can't get over his bad ass midget complex (no offense to little people) and get real and do the right thing for once.

slowman 05-06-2007 11:15 AM

i agree with chevy65, if anyone looks at the work don (fastbowtie) does it's very clear that the work is very nice. even if he's a back yard mech or side yard he has more class and ability then scott will ever have. the back yard mech term is throwen around alot in this site and all i have to say is ho didn't start out in the back yard. if dynoflo is some great company and have records in all kinds of different classes then why is it scott can't even qualfie in the top five in his class. one would think if he is so good the blazer would be faster. scott, all the sites and all the people that you broke it off in there rear will and are coming for you. i don't speak for everyone on this site but if you would just crawl under a rock and stay there i think everyone would be happer. in your case you could walk under a rock. i beleave your just pissed that you have to shop for your pants at kids are us.

trose 05-07-2007 07:37 PM

CAN I GET DYNO TO FIX THIS ONE?
 
IT IS TO FAST AND NEEDS A DYNOFLO MOTOR IN IT
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/88068...LD-BE-4hp.html

RonOwensRacing 05-07-2007 07:53 PM

be careful that's dirty language you may get your mouth wash out with soap . just kidding . boy old dyno just don't know what he got himself into does he. :)

lotsof454sss 05-08-2007 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by rlmotorsports
be careful that's dirty language you may get your mouth wash out with soap . just kidding . boy old dyno just don't know what he got himself into does he. :)

Oh yea he knows...There is just not a damn thing he can do about it :!: You show your ass and people get a picture of it and it is there forever.....Well we all got the picture and now it is in the enlargement stage and soon released on every big screen...Now showing in every racers garage, circle track, drag, mud, boat, hill climb, pulling, you name it, they know about it...

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...9/writting.png

mikkey 05-08-2007 08:11 AM

DYNOFLO
 
Scot,Now it is your turn to do the right thing, take care of you customer's, I have read all the post's on this site, and A few on other site's, do you expect this issue to just go away(NOT)And buy the way you don't just owe (fastbowtie) an apology, you owe this whole site an apology for your comment's. you have made,If ya don't I will go with my gutt fealing,you are lower then A snake's belly in A wagon's wheel rutt :P :P buy the way where is the spec sheet on this motor, you should have every spec there is on this motor(blue printing and balancing)and all???????

RonOwensRacing 05-08-2007 01:08 PM

what was your favorite word 454 wasn't it remember pace. :lol:

lotsof454sss 05-08-2007 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by rlmotorsports
what was your favorite word 454 wasn't it remember pace. :lol:

You mean as in PACE AMERICAN TRAILERS :?: Yea and I bet they hope I never start on them again about that one style of crappy trailer they palmed off on their customers and will not make them all good...It takes an act of this site to get a mans trailer repaired...

chevguy65 05-08-2007 01:20 PM

Re: DYNOFLO
 

Originally Posted by mikkey
Scot,Now it is your turn to do the right thing, take care of you customer's, I have read all the post's on this site, and A few on other site's, do you expect this issue to just go away(NOT)And buy the way you don't just owe (fastbowtie) an apology, you owe this whole site an apology for your comment's. you have made,If ya don't I will go with my gutt fealing,you are lower then A snake's belly in A wagon's wheel rutt :P :P buy the way where is the spec sheet on this motor, you should have every spec there is on this motor(blue printing and balancing)and all???????

Scot does not seem to know how to take care of a customer anymore than he knows how to torque a rod bolt, or clearence a piston, or gap a ring. In fact the only thing I have seen him be able to do is blame others for his screw ups and call people names. Oh and admit that he is an a-hole.


Not what I would want on my resume.
That or sawed off little runt.

RonOwensRacing 05-08-2007 01:56 PM

ya man I'm sure they don't the friend of mine that bought one of there engines last year is pulling it apart after i told him about this thread he read it and decided not to trust it his car will be done in a few weeks so he has time to tear it down and check it out i think he got scared and don't blame him i will let everybody know what the results are on it i cant wait to see myself.

trose 05-11-2007 11:24 AM

i was just interested in seeing what they would tell me about a big block motor for my dirt car, and here it is.

From: dynoflo To: trose Date: 2007-05-11 15:05:26
Subject: Re: MOTOR
Re: Ad #860226
Message: Interesting. We can substitute the alum block for an extra 3100.00 on the listed engine, if you need a different layout, that has more of a circletrack style power band we can adjust that for you, the price would be the same. By the way, Just because someone says something, doesn't mean that it is true. Now we ship our shortblocks with a sheet that has the tq specs, and a signature on the 2 different people who checked the tq and a note that tells you to do it again. Not because I feel we have any problem, but because people will do anything to point the blame at someone else. On the dynoed engines, we run those for about an hour prior to shipping, so as with all my dynoed engines, we still have never had one where the rod bolts were loose. I suspect yours would be no different. Thanks Scot

On [2007-05-11 11:39:41] trose wrote:
> HAS ALL OF THE BOLTS BEEN CHECKED THEN RECHECKED. I AM LOOKING FOR A BIG BLOCK ALUM MOTOR TO TRY IN A DIRT LATE MODEL :o :o :lol:

chevguy65 05-11-2007 12:15 PM

LMAO......Scot I think your so full of shit your midget eyes are brown.

"Not because I feel we have any problem, but because people will do anything to point the blame at someone else."

LOL, now guys, let me tell you something.
In psychiatry, it has been proven that if someone tells him/herself a lie long enough, in their mind it becomes true. This is apparently what has happened to Scot.

Even with all the proof in the world, and not just from Donn's deal, but from many others as well, Scot has not got the balls to man up and admit he is no more than an engine assembler and a piss poor one at that.

My opinions have not changed since day one when I emailed him and all he could do is point fingers and blame others without any explanation of how HIS assembled shortblock could have failed so miserably.

Scot, you sir are nothing but a pussy and a liar in my opinion.

RonOwensRacing 05-11-2007 01:34 PM

now if chevy guy would only say what he really thinks
go get em buddy i cant believe after all the people that has posted stuff on this guy he still believes He's god or something better than that
He's got his self convinced now still trying convince everyone else he is god.

mcracecars 05-11-2007 02:50 PM


now if chevy guy would only say what he really thinks
Yeah Carl, quit beating around the bush and get to the point, we are not mind readers you know.... :lol:
Lets keep this thread alive as long as we can..... :shock:

mikkey 05-12-2007 10:02 AM

dynoflo
 
Scot, your A legend in your own mind, READ BACK IN SCAMMER SECTION This is not your first mistake, just read through the section this is not the first post in this section?????CORRECT, about your business???? lack of sale's hurt's,Don't it,You know this deal isn't done YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO SAVE FACE BUT, YOU HAVE ALREADY TOLD EVERYONE THAT YOU ARE A ASS WHOLE SO I STILL DONT EXPECT YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING, It just isn't in you, Have A great day idiot,buy the way I moved all my stuff from the back yard to the front so everyone can see how bad of work I really do!!! :D

lively 05-12-2007 02:21 PM

NOW CARL---LET US TAKE A DEEEEEEP BREATH AND SEARCH ALL OUR INNER FEELINGS AND THEN CHECK THE AURA AROUND US[ NOW JUST EXPRESS YOURSELF AND LET US KNOW THE TRUE MEANING OF BEING UPSET AT LIARS AND LOWLIFE SCUMSUCKING CROOKS]----- :x :x :x

real3fann 05-12-2007 04:14 PM

I read about problems with Dynoflo 3-4 years ago on this site, and it was the same complaints about thier engines failing and them (Dynosuck) not standing behind it.. One guys storie said he even drove to their shop and picked his Completey assmbled and dyno tested eng up and it still blew up on the first pass and Scott blaimed eveyone but his own co. Sad to think 4 years later they are still doing business :shock:

Taxman 05-13-2007 08:35 AM

Crap this is a long thread. I read the 1st 12 pages and my eyes are hurting.
I was also going to buy a motor from Dynoflo and now I'm glad I didnt. I bought a Reher Morrison 522 instead. I'm glad I stepped up and spent the extra cash instead of trying to save a buck. I was looking at thier 582 for much less money than my 522. I also have a riend that I crew cheif on that was going to buy from them as well and now will not.

I am a business owner myself in the custom home market. I warranty all my instalations and materials for 1 year which is standard. I'll fix anything that fails free of charge and most of the time even fix problems that arent mine for free as well. After the year is up I still make free repairs that I know will not affect my pocket book very much, just so the builders stay happy and I keep getting new referrals. My builders love me and I'm proud of that fact. When it comes down to it, I'd rather spend a few dollars than to lose a lot a money from future work that I didnt get. I do 3 million a year in business so a repair that cost me a few hundred or even a thousand isnt a big deal to me. I just do it and move on. I've had repairs that werent my fault that cost me 3k plus but the builder was happy and I since made several hundred thousand from the same builder which I would have lost if the repair wasnt done. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and do the right thing.

The right thing here is replace the shortblock completely. INCLUDING anything else that may have been damaged as a result of the failure. I understand the date of sale issue from Dynoflo. BUT. You have the pictures of the engine and it's VERY apparent that this motor doesnt have any runs on it.

I had an engine builder that I used in the past just for our machine work on our parts and we assembled them. We never blew a motor up in nearly 20 years. This is in my stock car days running late model asphalt cars. Anyway this builder-machinest did not reinstall the oil gally plug that is in the block that cant really be seen very well. We built the motor and went to the track. Spun a bearing pretty quick. Oil pressure was good but the oil was being bypassed back to the filter and not getting into the motor where it needed to be. He did not help with the rebuild and said we should have checked this ourselves. HE was paid to do a job and failed at that. We never used him again. He is now out of business.

Another builder installed new springs and a set of heads that had a broken spring already. I made 1 pass and broke another spring. He replaced all the springs again and did not charge me a dime for anything. Whether the mistake was his or the spring manufacture, he took care of me. He'll always get my business and does do work on all our motors that we dont take back to the builder for freshens or major work. All because of his customer service.

So Scott. Bite that bullet and do the right thing. Pictures are worth thousands of words. I'm sure the damage done here to your future sales might hurt a little "very little", but you can make it hurt a bit less by making your customers happy and taking responsibility for the mistake. I guess about 100k in sales have been lost due to this thread alone. Over 30k in my teams sales alone.

Mistakes do happen all the time. No one is perfect. We dont expect them to be. We just want honesty and for someone to be trustworthy.

killerpromod 05-17-2007 11:24 AM

Whats the latest?

fastbowtie 05-17-2007 07:02 PM

It,s coming guys I just want to make sure I have the data to back it all up .
But I will tell ya that we just found out the 454ci DynoFlo sbc is not A 454ci
It,s A 441ci
It only has A 4.125 bore not A 4.185 bore
I would like to know where the other 13 cubic inchs went that was ordered and paid for :?:

topsportsman1 05-17-2007 07:49 PM

This build sheet says its a 454,Its from Scot's company.

So if Scot says its a 454 then it must be true,He says he builds these every day


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...owtie1/001.jpg


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