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WENT THROUGH MY DOCUMENTS AND HAVE THE AD # FOR CAR WAS 1276181 AND AD # FOR TITLE AND HIS RECEIPT IS 1482703 LOOK AT THE RECEIPTS VERY CAREFULLY AND YOU WILL SE HE HAS ALTERED HIS BOTH ARE IDENTICAL EXCEPT FOR THE PART ABOUT RECEIVED AND BALANCE AND IF ALL THIS WERE TRUE MY RECEIPT WOULD HAVE THE BALANCE AND RECIEVED AS YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE WRITTEN IN INK WITH NO WAY TO ALTER MINE BUT HIS HAS BEEN ADDED TO I JUST WANT THE TITLE WHICH I WILL NEVER GET BUT MOST OF ALL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET MY GOOD NAME BACK THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED IN THIS ADVENTURE
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I have nothing at all in this, but I have read the whole post and I think mr Firebird should just quit bad mouthing you.
We have all sold cars and regretted it, but I doubt any of us has tried this sort of shananagans to make the deal better. It seems that Wayne bought the car for 13,500 and has the bill of sale to prove it, what is wrote on firebird's bill of sale could be done by anyone at anytime. The only question I have is to Wayne, does your signature look like the one on firebird's bill of sale? Or is it a forgery? Thats my .02 |
that is my signature the mistake i made was signing it with enough room left under his name for him to ad to it believe me this has not happened since on anything i sell and if i owed the money wouldnt my reciept match his instead of the reciepts matching except the add on by him my only problem is how do i get my name back just like kbartley put i have a carb he needs totally gone through ran once just to make sure it was ok but he says he is confused about all the posts how do i fix that since all i did was give the man money he wanted and left with the car this deal has cost me a lot of money which like i said i am following the advice given to me by all of you and i thank you all for finally seeing what has really gone on here the lesson here is like someone posted here always carry a carbon reciept book that makes 3 copies i found them at staples for less than 5 bucks
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Thats the worst part is that your name has been ran through the ringer. I personally wouldnt have any problem dealing with you in the future.
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Yep, the fact is that Waynes paid 13,500 for a car that was agreed he could take away... no one disputes that it seems.
So, that does make Firebird look bad when he comes here saying that he is owed another 1000 & mysterously says he has a title after making a bill of sale. Where is Firebird anyways???? |
If you got caught would you come back here :?: :?: :?:
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ROFL @ $776 asking price on the ad showing the bill of sale. :lol:
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Mopar LOL LOL You killing me man, Help my ribs hurt....
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THIS IS HOW U KNOW A SCAM HE WANTS TO BUY MY RECIEPT UNBELIEVABLE My Benefits Welcome, waynesworld154
[Sign Out] My Ads My Messages -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home Browse Ads Post Ads RaceSpace My Account My Ads My Account My Benefits My Favorites My Messages My Profile Forum Store Help! Find AdsSearch by Ad Number or Key Word Advanced Search My Messages [ inbox | sent | trash ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davidbill1 To: waynesworld154 Date: 2009-06-13 10:50:30 Subject: UYKT Re: Ad #1571614 - UYKT Hello Seller, I'm interested in purchasing your item with no delay...but first,What is the final price of the item?Will you be accepting a US certified Cashiers Check?Contact me with the present state of the item and your contact information as soon as possible. Name: Home Address: City: State: Zipcode: Phone Number/Office Number: Note that you dont need to worry about shipping as i have a private shipping company that will take care of the shipping and delivery of the item once payment is been received by you.I'll like to have the response to these question in your earliest conviniency. You can contact me via email on [email protected] to hear from you soon. Thanks. Mr David Bill Send Reply Delete Message Block User Is this message inappropriate? Report it here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home | Classifieds | About | Contact | Store | Advertise | Affiliate Program | Pricing Guide | FAQ | Send Link to a Friend Copyright ©2005 RacewayMedia LLC All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the RacewayMedia LLC Terms, Classified Guidelines and Privacy Policy Raceway Media, LLC PO Box 491, North Adams, MA 01247 Tel: 413.663.3496 • Fax: 413.663.3615 • Email: [email protected] Execution Time: 400 ms There are 2,351 guests and 1,127 members viewing this site. |
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That isn't him!! That is a typical scammer SPAM email. Theyv are trying to get your personal information. |
yeah i new it wasnt him just wanted people to not do this thanks
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Yeah i agree, don't answer that crap :!: :!: We all at one point and time have gotten that scam :!: :!: Shoot we love catching these a$$ clown's scamming people, then they just go bye,bye :!: :!:
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yeah!!
Yeah I just found out today from a buddy of mine that is selling one of his FED's on here that he actually got a ups delivered check for $1800.00 more then the asking price handed to him on thursday. He said he didnt think something was right so he took it to the bank and just gave it to the branch manager and she called the phone # on the form w/ the check. She ended up talking to someone at a mosloem religion church. Of coarse the church didn't know anything about it?OR DID THEY, HMMMM???
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Okay Firebird, this is where it ends. I have already taken legal matters into my own hands with all of the documentation from both sides. If you want to keep playing this game lets play! Be careful, you will owe me all of the money I have lost from you bashing my name ( and you can believe i have kept all the records of those who did not buy because they were confused from your ads) when you know you changed your bill of sale and disclosed a title after the transaction was made. Be a man and do what your going to do or just give it up already. It has almost been a year since I have put up with your childish games. Im done. So come on and come get what you think is yours or just admit you have sellers remorse and are trying to pin it on me. As far as im concerned this is over. This will either be settled in court or you can just send me the title which is rightfully mine and walk away...its up to you.
Okay, for all of you who read this forum, and you know who you are. There has been an add placed on complete race cars by firebird with picture of the title. Now tell me...how do we stop this from happening? He knows he has been found out for being the one that has been untruthful in the sale of this vehicle and will not plead his case in the forum. Thank you. Any advice you have I would appreciate. As I said above, I have already taken the legal action necessary on my side should this come to a fight...which it will if the title is not forwarded to me. How do I get my name back??? Now I beleive it is time for racing junk to get invovled and ban this guy from posting ads and ranting lies about others. Anyone know of any other avenues to go?? Maybe the monerators could get involved?? Something has to be done for things like this not to happen to anyone else. Thanks. |
call rj tomorrow tell them whats going on .. I talked to Waynesworld yesterday via phone and he is a heck of a nice guy.
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Hello Wayne,
I got your other PM, thanks. I am going to have to side w/ you on this I think... You seem to be honest, not rying to hide, willing to talk & plea your case. Given the circumstances, the whole thing is shady on firebirds side anyways. The facts are that you bought this car. You got a bill of sale. The title was brought into question later. If there was an agreement for an extra 1000.00 then it was poorly negotiated in an ambiguous manner by the seller anyways... which was as he cliams contengent upon the purchase of another vechile??? Sounds dubious at best... The seller has taken every opertunity to bash you; on a regular basis, but does not come on here to reply at this point.... to me, that shows he is not willing to face the facts found here. he has just dissapeared... The question of "what can you do" is best for the experts such as Scorp or the RJ mods. I unfortunately would not know the basis of how to fix this one. Who knows if there really is a title??? But he has slandered you big-time. I think firebird is a coward & I will be surprised if he returns... if he does, he will be more interested in bashing you rather than peacefully resolving this matter. Good luck & God bless, Scooter |
I tell you how to fix him...but it will cost you...take that car out on the street and ram it into someones house then take off and leave it!! guess who they will go after!!
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Originally Posted by Tod74
I tell you how to fix him...but it will cost you...take that car out on the street and ram it into someones house then take off and leave it!! guess who they will go after!!
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So it finally came back to the forum huh? Good!! But it's funny how whoever is on here making all the posts is who you vultures side with. You know what--buy the car. Get boned. See if I give a crap. I haven't been back to this forum since our last go around, so give a person the opportunity to defend themselves at least. If you just chimmed in on this forum and think wayne is such a honest guy, maybe you had better go back a few pages and dig a little deeper before jumping on the band wagon so quick. And wayne, don't threaten me. Bring legal action--your forgetting who owes me $1,000. And guttless Tod74---I'm sure wayne wouldn't be stupid enough to do such a idiotic move. Maybe you would. But after our last go around on this car I'm quite sure he was smart enough to remove the vin tag. Oh and by the way--I've got witness to our conversation and he happens to be a local police officer. The only reason I haven't had the car recovered is the simple fact that it costs plenty of $$$ to chase after a loser in Kentucky while living a few States away.
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Well i am glad to see you back on here, you went away so what is one to think? If you start something you need to see it thru :!: :!:
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OK I just got another pm asking me why I don't tell my side of the story. Like I said in my last post--go back several pages and read the strory line people. I explained my stroy in quite detail several pages back and early on in this series of events. If you can't read back far enough to get the story from the begining, keep your accusations to yourself. I wasn't aware that it had even come active here on the forum again til just a few minutes ago when I got home from work. I seriously could care less if he sells the car or not. In all actuallity the car is a very nice piece of equipment---it's the seller you need to be careful of. And that is my whole point behind the postings. Bottom line is he took the car agreeing to send me my 1K and he'd get the title to the car in return. There's no more or no less to the story---Period!!! And to the yahoo that sent me a message on the vette wondering if I'd hold the title for the vette for ransom////NO I wouldn't, because I'd never let a car leave my sight again without having payment in full. Title or not----you simply can't trust people.
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One other small detail I'd like to point out here---on mr. honest waynes one ad for the firebird, he has it posted "no title" "bill of sale only" #1 He's known from day one this car was titled #2 he's also known for some time that he and I are having a dispute over the 1K owed and turning the title over. But he's such a great and honest guy huh? OK
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Originally Posted by firebird89
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anytime :wink:
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why dont u post a copy of your reciept so all can see how u have altered it and u never said a word about a title but i would like to thank u for at least telling the truth about the car but as far as the rest i kept telling u the truth would come out and as far as the cop listening while u and i are on the phone who cares it is called hearsay. I also had someone in the vehicle with me and the only thing she heard was my side of the conversation...as did your friend.I am not threating you with anything but the truth. there are 3 people that know what happened that is you me and god i dont like this whole sitituation i paid u you signed bill of sale then produce a title later lets just end this deal and send me the title to the car we both know the lein was wrote off a long time ago your credit union told me and the investigator that. it has been almost a year that this he said she said has been going on time to let it go just send title like u should have done in the first place remember you took the money counted it made out reciept and drove car on trailer for me shook my hand and told me good luck i got a real winning car and i have a witness to that
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For those of you still on the fence and to those of you who are supporting me. I have a few points about the title and why he did not disclose it to me.
1.if the title had a lien on it when it was sold he would not be able to sign it over to me. 2. the lien on the car has been written off which means the loan was not paid and the bank took a loss. Title still shows the credit union as a lien holder according to his ad # 1574778 soooo he couldn't sign the title over to me without owing at the DMV. 3. In firebirds own words (you can go back and read all posting in the forum) the bank wont remove the lean until wayne pays me the 1,000 dollars. We all know the bank doesnt care about wayne. If you have a loan the payment is due when the payment is due. The bank does not have a contract with me and the car would not have been authorized by the bank to sell unless the loan was paid. We report You decide....... |
firebird89, In my post I asked a few quetions and yet to see you reply to them. Care to answer all the questions????
You sure seem to make blanket statments that the cops are on the buyers side, your going to repo the car BLA BLA BLA, I would like to see you try. You had better have you ducks in a row my friend.... you could find yourself in jail on Grand Theft charges. Your about one post away from this guy owning you in court. I can tell by the statements you make you are clueless when it comes to how the court system works. You had better brush up on them and locate a good civil attorney. Care to guess the rate of a so so attorney... let us just say, $175.00 per hour. Yes that is $175.00 per hour with a minium of 8 hours paid up front $1400.00 just to review your case and offer advise. Or you could just go on people's court and have your case settled. Free trip to NY and they even pay you to be on the show. That way the whole world will see both of you and the loser will have to face the public as such. You see the sad side of the court system is he can sue you without an attorney because he has the car and a bill of sale, you sold a car that has a title and failed to complete the proper paperwork at YOUR local "State DMV". Remember what I said before you are still liable if anything happens with that car an another person or even HIM. The guy spent over $13,000.00 dollars and you gave him the car and now you have a title that you post showing a lein and the fact that you knew it had a lein. This only makes his case all the better. Keep holding that title and posting it.... I will set back and laugh when it blows up in your face. Oh it will my friend it will. Check case law for this and you will not be able to get that title out of your name fast enough. Well that is if you have anything to lose, not sure on just what you do and don't own and don't care to spend anymore time looking it up. |
IF THE CAR STILL HAS A LEIN ON IT , ISN'T THE BANK STILL THE OFFICAL OWNER OF THE CAR? WOULDN'T SELLING SOMETHING THAT YOU DONT OWN BE A CRIME?
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Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
IF THE CAR STILL HAS A LEIN ON IT , ISN'T THE BANK STILL THE OFFICAL OWNER OF THE CAR? WOULDN'T SELLING SOMETHING THAT YOU DONT OWN BE A CRIME?
I think I would keep calling the buyer all the bad names I could think of and post as many things about the sale I could only to have them used against me later. Remember anything you post in public can and will be used against you |
The bank simply wont release the lein per my request. The car was paid off before he ever even came and got it. Grand theft charges--think not. Seems to me a good majority of you dimwitted geniuses have nothing better to do than come on here and ad useless comments on a subject you know nothing about. Sorry, I don't have the time or the desire to go back and read all your questions to me---oh well, I actually work. I'm not on trial here, especially to a forum of vultures. And I certainly don't have to answer any questions to try and substantiate myself to you people. If you'd rather take the side of a sidewinder that dodges out on following all the way through with a deal---go for it!!! What's illegal is not paying someone money you agreed on--that's what's illegal so please---go ahead and take it to court here. That would save me from having to come down there to do it. Want the info wayne? The county the transaction took place in? Want the phone # of the courthouse? You want to threaten me with rediculous crap after ramming me on a deal---please follow through.
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AH YES, THE IRS OUR GOVERMENT ALLIGATOR ON CRACK. IF MONEY WAS NOT DECLARED I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE FIREBIRD89 :!: :shock:
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robinhorn---maybe you should get your facts straight before you shoot your big mouth off!!!
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no thanks i have that info already
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Go ahead and contact the IRS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hear a shit load of dip shit threats and no action!! How stupid are you people hey??? I hold a LEGAL title for this car and for good reason!!! I was the idiot good enough to let him take the car and agree to hold the title for my money until he got home---that was my mistake and I had admitted that long ago in this forum. But I'll be dammed if I'm going to sit here and crawl in a hole from frivilous threats. I am 100% in the right in this matter, so PLEASE go ahead and call the IRS--the bank--the police---take it to court.. PLEASE DO IT and stop talking about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Better yet--wayne, you were asked several pages and months ago why you don't just come clean on the deal, pay me the $1,000 you owe me and you'll get the clean title for the car like we agreed on??? Why not just be a man of your word and go good on the deal so it will all go away? Do you seriously think I have enjoyed getting screwed out of 1K by you?
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Here it is in his own words. This is a copy of his posting in this forum. 1st is a copy he posted when everyone was bashing me. 2nd is a posting he just posted tonight. Which is it??? Is their a lein on the vehicle that the bank is waiting for me to pay. Or was the lien paid before I even bought the car???
1st post **Well there you go bigray---give a thief another route to go with his already big pile of B.S. Race car or street car it is a legal titled vehicle and as long as it's documented it's the law. Here's another little addition for you----the Credit Union I originally used to finance the car still holds a legal Lien on it. They wouldn't release the Lien until I told them he paid me. He'd have to bust the car up a bit to get the vin tag out from under the cage sil plate. The Credit Union retained all the photos and info on the car from when I had it appraised by a local shop as well. Yes--I obviously shouldn't have let the car go without the other grand in my pocket---so are you saying that gives him the right to stiff me? 2nd post is on this page. Maybe you should go back and read the forum so you can keep your lies straight. |
firebird I'd never buy a damn thing from u .. and anyone who gets on here and reads this shouldnt either. Read all this crap, if your gonna take him to court go ahead and do it and be done with it. Untill that this thread is dead :!: :arrow: :idea: :!: :wink:
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1st post is on page 2 so you can read yourself u got to love copy and paste
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Well Damn :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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What the hell is it you don't understand? It's the same dam thing I just said. Obviously your a bunch of inbred idiots! Is there something you don't understand about a lein??? A lein is a document that needs to be signed off to make transfer of ownership possible. I eventually asked the bank to hold the lein on the vehicle even though it was paid off just so I had some legal clout. When he picked the car up I had the lein release as well as the title. Had he had the 14.5 he would've taken a clean title with him. Just because I had a release for the lein doesn't make it automatically released. It has to be put into the DMV system via the lein release I already had at the time OR the bank submitting documentation to the State. Therefore I requested they not submit a lein release to the State because of the situation at hand. This forum is obviosusly for idiots with nothing better to do. Enjoy it!! I'm done with it!! And as far as your title wayne--you can count on getting it--never! Keep your $1,000. I don't even want it anymore thief! And to the genius who would never buy from me--don't. Good for you. When I sell something--it's exactly what I say it is and I've NEVER thrown the screws to anyone on anything I've sold or traded, so your loss. Certainly not mine!! Enjoy your forum. I can see it is truely useless for the most part. You can't squeeze blood from a rock, so keep the 1K. I seriously have better things to do with my time than argue with people that really don't have a clue!!
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