After reading this entire thread I have no Idea who is telling the truth. I do know that it would be easy to tell if fogger would just pony up some Bank or credit card statements. I know you have said you know longer bank at the same bank but I would think you held on to your bank statements. It is not like this went down 10 years ago. The same about credit card statements. You are doing yourself no good by ranting and repeating yourself. Pony up the statements and we will all know. I have never dealt with KYspeedparts and probably wouldnt. You should pay whomever you owe. Fogger or paypal.

That has been my point...YOU owe paypal If they refunded him his money. Point is you got 3300 bucks for free.

Because he withdrew the money from his paypal account once TFSBC sent it..then he closed his account and never sent the boxes..SO even if TFSBC DID get his money back...KSP still has 3300 dollars that do not belong to him. Paypal hasn't paid TF because Dwight had no money in his account(closed account) Paypal can't pay him back if the money is gone(dwight's took it) and since they can't get the money from Dwight they would have to give TF some of their money...how likely is that?

Either way KSP is a crook.He took money for payment but never sent the boxes. In my book that makes him a thief.

Bingo. He had no intentions of sending the boxes according to him so why the hell did he deposit my money into his bank acct instead of refunding me? He also had the chance to refund me when I filed a dispute but chose not to.

it sure looks that way.

What an absolutely useless thread! Yawn, yawn........
Mom, Jimmy hit me! No I didn't! Yes you did! Mom, he hit me again!
Yea, I know you get my point!

Post up the evidence or shut the hell up already!

BTW, I wouldn't do business with either one of you two!

well , after listening to both sides this is what I think , probaly will make both sides mad , but thats life when you air your dirty laundry on a public forum..I think fogger DID order the msd boxs with intent to try and get his money back and the boxes , I think kentucky DID try and hide the money and not ship the boxes , I think Fogger got reimbursed by paypal and now Kentucky is having to pay them back..looks like two people tried to scam each other at the same time and now it is at a stalemate , time to sh*t or get off the pot , if you think someone stole over $3000 from you then press charges on them and have them arrested..if you can't because the truth will come out then you need to drop it...all this he said , she said is doing nothing at all . there is no way to solve this on this forum.unless bank statements are presented . anything other than that is a waste of time ..sorry if either side is unhappy with what I think but thats just what it is , what I think,,,,Paul

Paul, that is EXACTLY what I think happen here!! jmo, mike

I am back on the fence, neither one has shown what I would call "solid" evidence to support their stories. Its all he said/he said at this point. Time to move onto a new task and like Scorp said, just let these 2 beat each other down. :D